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Post #183,444 by jb4 11/8/04 9:16:28 AM Reply	Where do I sign up? The Democrats need a good attack dog or two. Someone that isn't interested in higher office then congress, comes from a securly liberal area, and isn't afraid to look silly from time to time. They need to get out and hammer some of the issues that the Republicans have just been bowling the Democrats over on. Sounds like the job was written using my resume (just ask BeeP). So, where do I sign up? jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #183,460 by bepatient 11/8/04 10:50:12 AM Reply	Nope. Your guy was just elected in Illinois. Clear, concise, well spoken, hyper-intelligent. We'll see if it lasts with the party hierarchy. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #183,497 by jb4 11/8/04 1:41:41 PM Reply	Clear, concise, well spoken, hyper-intelligent != attack dog Obama will play well to the intelligentsia of the party (which appears, according to other posts in this thread, to comprise some 95% of the total intelligentsia of the country, but I digress....) Now, we need an Rovian attack dog to rouse the rabble, as it were. jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #183,503 by bepatient 11/8/04 1:49:26 PM Reply	Yes it does. You have all of the other hate-mongers you need...trust me. The Republicans couldn't have asked for better than they got from Michael Moore. What the Democrats need is someone who can cut through the rederick and clearly explain the alternative viewpoint. I've been very impressed with his ability to do this in the past several weekend shows I've seen him on. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #183,515 by jake123 11/8/04 2:12:02 PM Reply	ObPedanticSpellingNit - it's "rhetoric". Gotta get up to speed on the ancient Greek stuff... ;) --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #183,516 by admin 11/8/04 2:15:05 PM Reply	/me crooks his finger and talks to it: "Red-er-RICK! Red-er-RICK!" Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #183,525 by bepatient 11/8/04 2:47:21 PM Reply	Don't forget to use that "croaky" voice. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #183,526 by jake123 11/8/04 2:50:51 PM Reply	Nah, high and whiny "rederick, come out to pla-ay... rederick, come out to pla-ay" --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #183,527 by bepatient 11/8/04 2:52:48 PM Reply	Think he was going for the "Shining" angle. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #183,530 by jake123 11/8/04 2:59:45 PM Reply	yeah, I just had something different in mind. 'twas a great flick too. "Don't listen to Rederick! He could be one of those things!" All from the same era:) --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #183,524 by bepatient 11/8/04 2:46:40 PM Reply	Ack...what was I thinking? Or perhaps I wasn't. Been getting that one wrong since 4th grade. Damn phonetics. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]

Thoughts on the election - (JayMehaffey) - (96) - Nov. 5, 2004, 10:03:17 PM EST

Personally, I think he's blasphemous - (jake123) - Nov. 5, 2004, 10:09:46 PM EST

Thoughts on your thoughts - (bepatient) - (79) - Nov. 6, 2004, 11:21:42 AM EST

It's always a tough call - (JayMehaffey) - (48) - Nov. 6, 2004, 11:43:22 AM EST

backing, moore and aclu - (daemon) - Nov. 6, 2004, 11:45:48 AM EST

Wow. - (bepatient) - (10) - Nov. 6, 2004, 01:42:54 PM EST

Re: Wow. - (JayMehaffey) - (9) - Nov. 6, 2004, 01:55:10 PM EST

"so what" about the gay issue. - (bepatient) - (7) - Nov. 6, 2004, 02:49:16 PM EST

Really? - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Nov. 6, 2004, 06:27:52 PM EST

3 of them. - (admin) - Nov. 6, 2004, 09:31:39 PM EST

why a "civil union" and lets ignore religo marital issues - (daemon) - (2) - Nov. 6, 2004, 11:25:17 PM EST

So when you have your second heart attack... - (jb4) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2004, 09:25:46 AM EST

sorry a general power of attourney puts you there - (daemon) - Nov. 8, 2004, 05:33:02 PM EST

Banning Gay Marriage (new thread) - (tuberculosis) - Nov. 8, 2004, 12:51:47 PM EST

The gay civil union issue is important . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Nov. 6, 2004, 06:38:05 PM EST

That's exactly the problem - (drewk) - Nov. 7, 2004, 12:33:18 AM EST

"The distain was entirly in your mind. " - (Arkadiy) - (35) - Nov. 8, 2004, 05:07:42 PM EST

As was the post by mmoffitt to this thread. -NT - (altmann) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2004, 05:33:13 PM EST

I give up. I can't find my post in this thread. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 9, 2004, 08:59:19 AM EST

How utterly Bolshevik of you. - (mmoffitt) - (32) - Nov. 9, 2004, 09:02:00 AM EST

Even though you may disagree, - (Arkadiy) - (31) - Nov. 9, 2004, 09:49:20 AM EST

Yeah, try me - (ben_tilly) - (14) - Nov. 9, 2004, 12:01:38 PM EST

Believe it or not - (Arkadiy) - (13) - Nov. 9, 2004, 02:27:57 PM EST

I find that hard to believe - (ben_tilly) - (12) - Nov. 9, 2004, 03:35:05 PM EST

Welcome to the distorted view that the US has of itself - (jake123) - Nov. 9, 2004, 04:09:21 PM EST

Two of your items pull you to the right: - (Arkadiy) - (10) - Nov. 9, 2004, 05:56:32 PM EST

Curious look - (Simon_Jester) - (3) - Nov. 9, 2004, 08:01:56 PM EST

"In this town, people are what they are percieved to be" -NT - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Nov. 10, 2004, 01:33:43 PM EST

Perceived by whom? -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Nov. 10, 2004, 02:53:12 PM EST

Actually, I think I misquoted - (Arkadiy) - Nov. 10, 2004, 02:56:43 PM EST

Civil liberties is a right-wing philosophy? - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Nov. 10, 2004, 02:50:28 PM EST

Two facts: - (Arkadiy) - (4) - Nov. 10, 2004, 03:07:15 PM EST

I've come to find... - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 10, 2004, 04:14:46 PM EST

I think I have to agree - (Silverlock) - Nov. 10, 2004, 04:49:28 PM EST

"average programmer" :) -NT - (Arkadiy) - Nov. 10, 2004, 05:26:50 PM EST

Well there are multiple "right"s - (ben_tilly) - Nov. 11, 2004, 11:56:48 AM EST

Did someone say howls? - (pwhysall) - (4) - Nov. 9, 2004, 12:11:02 PM EST

Huh? -NT - (Arkadiy) - (3) - Nov. 9, 2004, 02:28:47 PM EST

Read me in *my* posts. -NT - (pwhysall) - (2) - Nov. 9, 2004, 05:17:08 PM EST

Oh, I see MM reference, I just don't get how it's connected - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Nov. 9, 2004, 05:57:59 PM EST

MM's sig oooO0Oooo - (bepatient) - Nov. 9, 2004, 06:04:16 PM EST

Pure balderdash - language murder 1st Class - (Ashton) - (2) - Nov. 12, 2004, 02:57:45 AM EST

The language got corrupted, - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Nov. 15, 2004, 10:07:01 AM EST

Miss the whole point about labelling, again? - (Ashton) - Nov. 15, 2004, 06:50:08 PM EST

You "know I call myself a Communist"? - (mmoffitt) - (7) - Nov. 22, 2004, 11:33:20 AM EST

I seem to remeber reading that in your posts... - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Nov. 22, 2004, 11:55:33 AM EST

Confused. :-) - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 22, 2004, 12:16:32 PM EST

he is an OP communist :-) - (daemon) - Nov. 25, 2004, 12:09:04 AM EST

Uh, here - (broomberg) - (3) - Nov. 22, 2004, 11:55:59 AM EST

I'd be a communist, but I'm not good enough. Close.... -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Nov. 22, 2004, 12:07:30 PM EST

A good communits is a dead communist - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Nov. 22, 2004, 12:15:30 PM EST

That sounds like what I heard in church as a tot. - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 22, 2004, 12:19:39 PM EST

You haven't been paying attention, have you? - (ben_tilly) - (29) - Nov. 6, 2004, 02:14:50 PM EST

Yes, I have. - (bepatient) - (28) - Nov. 6, 2004, 02:54:52 PM EST

That's an impossible standard to reach - (ben_tilly) - (22) - Nov. 6, 2004, 06:33:37 PM EST

Whatever. - (bepatient) - (21) - Nov. 6, 2004, 07:44:07 PM EST

No, YOU missed the point - (ben_tilly) - (20) - Nov. 7, 2004, 04:33:49 AM EST

They can try what Tony Blair did. - (Another Scott) - Nov. 7, 2004, 10:27:10 AM EST

Oh, somehow I don't think so. - (bepatient) - (13) - Nov. 7, 2004, 11:13:48 AM EST

Yes, let's go back to the gay issue - (ben_tilly) - (12) - Nov. 8, 2004, 11:16:43 AM EST

Priceless. - (bepatient) - (9) - Nov. 8, 2004, 11:27:31 AM EST

Suggestion - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Nov. 8, 2004, 11:37:20 AM EST

How I would've put it - (jake123) - (4) - Nov. 8, 2004, 11:44:17 AM EST

And what is a "state's rights issue"? - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Nov. 8, 2004, 12:01:27 PM EST

An issue that is under the purview of the state government - (jake123) - (2) - Nov. 8, 2004, 12:04:40 PM EST

A complication for you - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2004, 12:21:06 PM EST

Who said it has to make sense? - (jake123) - Nov. 8, 2004, 12:41:38 PM EST

I already told you. - (bepatient) - Nov. 8, 2004, 12:53:11 PM EST

Not anyone. Just (at least) 50% of 'em... -NT - (jb4) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2004, 01:31:10 PM EST

Re: Not anyone. Just (at least) 50% of 'em... - (bepatient) - Nov. 8, 2004, 01:36:48 PM EST

Another good example - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2004, 12:57:15 PM EST

DING DING DING DING - (bepatient) - Nov. 8, 2004, 01:06:36 PM EST

Here's a suggestion, Ben - (jb4) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2004, 09:35:41 AM EST

reminds me of LBJ - (daemon) - Nov. 8, 2004, 05:43:17 PM EST

No he didn't - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Nov. 8, 2004, 01:11:00 PM EST

Tippecanoe and Tyler, too. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2004, 01:27:18 PM EST

right - the more things change.. - (deSitter) - Nov. 8, 2004, 01:55:51 PM EST

So where do we go from here? - (GBert) - (4) - Nov. 8, 2004, 07:35:21 AM EST

Now, now...be nice... - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - Nov. 7, 2004, 03:11:40 PM EST

Been reading Karl's playbook? 65 kB .gif - (Another Scott) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2004, 07:22:22 AM EST

You broke it, you bought it. -NT - (admin) - Nov. 8, 2004, 09:29:47 AM EST

Can you get me into Italy? :) -NT - (deSitter) - Nov. 8, 2004, 09:08:55 AM EST

Let's roll baby -NT - (deSitter) - Nov. 6, 2004, 06:53:42 PM EST

Re: Thoughts on the election - (JvlivsCaesar) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2004, 04:02:34 AM EST

you havnt met Jerold Nadler have you? - (daemon) - Nov. 7, 2004, 10:07:36 AM EST

found in the local letter to the editor - (daemon) - Nov. 7, 2004, 10:16:13 AM EST

Where do I sign up? - (jb4) - (10) - Nov. 8, 2004, 09:16:28 AM EST

Nope. Your guy was just elected in Illinois. - (bepatient) - (9) - Nov. 8, 2004, 10:50:12 AM EST

Clear, concise, well spoken, hyper-intelligent != attack dog - (jb4) - (8) - Nov. 8, 2004, 01:41:41 PM EST

Yes it does. - (bepatient) - (7) - Nov. 8, 2004, 01:49:26 PM EST

ObPedanticSpellingNit - it's "rhetoric". - (jake123) - (6) - Nov. 8, 2004, 02:12:02 PM EST

/me crooks his finger and talks to it: - (admin) - (4) - Nov. 8, 2004, 02:15:05 PM EST

Don't forget to use that "croaky" voice. -NT - (bepatient) - (3) - Nov. 8, 2004, 02:47:21 PM EST

Nah, high and whiny - (jake123) - (2) - Nov. 8, 2004, 02:50:51 PM EST

Think he was going for the "Shining" angle. -NT - (bepatient) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2004, 02:52:48 PM EST

yeah, I just had something different in mind. - (jake123) - Nov. 8, 2004, 02:59:45 PM EST

Ack...what was I thinking? - (bepatient) - Nov. 8, 2004, 02:46:40 PM EST

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