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New About those missing explosives at al Qaqqaa
[link|http://www.adamyoshida.com/2004/10/mainstream-media-opens-fire.html|Seems they were missing to begin with]

Excerpts:

Now, the story fails to answer one core question: when did these
explosives go missing? It is simply never mentioned anywhere in the body
of the story. American forces, one official is quoted as saying, went
through the facility sometime towards the beginning of the war, saw no
materials carrying the IAEA seal, and moved on. Buried deep within the
story is the most likely explanation for what happened to the stockpile:
it was standard Iraqi practice to, prior to bombing, move explosives out
into the open and camouflage it. In all probability, it was long gone
before any American soldiers ever got near the place...

First: in all probability most of what was at Al Qaqaa and these other
places was looted before the arrival of US troops. Post-war intelligence
confirms what many of us have long believed: that Saddam had, by March
of 2003, abandoned all hope of defeating the United States in a
conventional war and, therefore, had staked his hopes on the victory of
a guerrilla force which, in collaboration with seditionists in America,
would undermine the morale of the American people and force a US
withdrawal.

I say:

This is another overhyped story, very similar to the trumped up
museum looting scandal. The only thing making it different is it comes
very close to the election, leaving very little time to get the
debunking out there.

[link|http://fnmarlowe-politics-world.blogspot.com/2004/10/about-those-missing-explosives-at-al.html|Comment at blogger.com]


[link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/iraq.html#20041025|Angelfire link] (turn off Javascript to avoid popups)
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I will not rate.
Lucy Ramirez please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Kerry is a liar and he doesn't tolerate fights from others.
"All the news you wish would go away"
[link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
New Agreement...but as Scott McClellan has pointed out...
the real question isn't when they went missing.

The real question is when did the President know.

Q The Kerry campaign is hitting you on this story in the New York Times today that a large cache of explosives have gone missing. Is there anything you could have done about that?

MR. McCLELLAN: Maybe the best way to do this is kind of walk you through how we came to be informed about this. The Iraqi Interim Government informed -- told the IAEA -- the International Atomic Energy Agency on October 10th that there were approximately 350 tons of high explosives missing from Al Qaqaa in Iraq. And they informed the IAEA because these munitions were subject to IAEA monitoring, because they were considered dual-use materials. And the International Atomic Energy Agency informed the United States mission in Vienna on October 15th about these -- this cache of explosives that was missing because of some looting that went on in Iraq toward the end of Operation Iraqi Freedom, or during and toward the end of Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Q When did the President find out?

MR. McCLELLAN: That's why I said, we were informed on October 15th. Condi Rice was informed days after that. This is all in the last, what, 10 days now.
[link|http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/10/20041025-1.html| Source ]
New Read above
The explosives -- considered powerful enough to demolish buildings or detonate nuclear warheads -- were under IAEA control until the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003. IAEA workers left the country before the fighting began.

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So apparently the IAEA had them up until they had to leave because of the invasion in March 2003.

Seems there should have been some sort of handoff there.



That was lovely cheese.

     --Wallace, The Wrong Trousers
New There was... but wrong hands.
"I'm man enough to tell you that I can't put my finger on
exactly what my philosophy is now, but I'm flexible."
-- Malcolm X
New Little time to debunk
The only thing making it different is it comes very close to the election, leaving very little time to get the debunking out there.
Do I smell a coverup? The administration has known this tidbit of information for quite some time. Yet with all their preoccupation about WMD, they were wanting to keep hush on this very subject. They have only theirselves to blame for not having enough time to debunk the story since they withheld this information from the public for an extended amount of time.

I say: if it wasn't about the mismanagement of high explosives, there'd be some other breaking story since there have been a whole class of errors committed in this administration's hubris.
     Incompetent Coalitioners lose 400 tons of go-boom - (deSitter) - (33)
         So nice that we're safer. -NT - (imric)
         More on CNN - (tuberculosis) - (2)
             Bat? He'd use a BB gun -NT - (deSitter) - (1)
                 Chainsaw. - (inthane-chan)
         About those missing explosives at al Qaqqaa - (marlowe) - (4)
             Agreement...but as Scott McClellan has pointed out... - (Simon_Jester)
             Read above - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                 There was... but wrong hands. -NT - (xtensive)
             Little time to debunk - (ChrisR)
         The incredible shrinking explosives looting scandal - (marlowe) - (23)
             It's a stupid point to make a fuss over. - (admin) - (10)
                 Because Kerry hopes to get mileage out of it. - (marlowe) - (9)
                     No doubt he hopes to. - (admin) - (5)
                         Well the beloved troops are pretty damned incompetent - (deSitter) - (4)
                             Some of them are. - (admin) - (3)
                                 Citizen soldiers - (deSitter) - (2)
                                     Vietnam was not a military failure - (ChrisR) - (1)
                                         I vehemently disagree - (deSitter)
                     Interesting...bot is full of Write-Only Memory (WOM) - (jb4) - (2)
                         Syntax Error. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                             Thanx- - (jb4)
             Curiouser and Curiouser - ABC News you say? - (Simon_Jester) - (11)
                 little phil needs better proof than ABC -NT - (daemon) - (10)
                     How about Fox news? - (Silverlock) - (9)
                         No, it hasnt been approved by either Karl, Rove or Marx -NT - (daemon) - (8)
                             Will you please quit putting Marx in with those guys? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                 Yeah, keep Zeppo out of it! -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     moffo is a Groucho Marxist -NT - (deSitter)
                                 Re: Will you please quit putting Marx in with those guys? - (daemon) - (4)
                                     Not even close. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                         Saw all the movies though. My ilk did too... -NT - (hnick) - (1)
                                             Well, at least you concede being ill-informed ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                         read all of it - (daemon)

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