Hmm. You are correct.

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Post #177,581

by imric

10/3/04 6:52:33 PM

Hmm. You are correct.

Sort of.

That's what I got from what Kerry said in the 'debate' (duelling press conference).

But you are right that the percentage of US citizens that are childish, cowardly and stupid (ie, the neoconned) are also likely to be those that couldn't maintain enough attention to listen to more than the Fox summary at the end of the 'debate'. I have no doubt that they will pounce on soundbites as vindication for supporting Bush.

The fact that Kerry is now ahead after this event (even slightly) says that the ones who could be bothered with more than soundbites - those that actually watched and listened - got it.

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As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.

Post #177,586

by bepatient

10/3/04 7:55:11 PM

Dunno

Polls looked pretty good for Kerry but I still haven't seen any giving him the lead...only seen them putting him within the margin of error.

Per the gallup survey on the debate...those that watched did, in fact, get it. I agree with that assessment.

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition}

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

Post #177,594

by a6l6e6x

10/3/04 8:55:41 PM

Try this then:

Newsweek [link|http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041003/us_nm/campaign_newsweek_poll_dc_10|Poll].

Alex

"If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words." -- Philip K. Dick, US science fiction writer

Post #177,603

by bepatient

10/3/04 10:22:07 PM

Okee dokee

Still within the margin...but K is up.

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition}

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

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foreign approval - (rcareaga) - Oct. 3, 2004, 02:27:16 AM EDT

Is he? - (bepatient) - (46) - Oct. 3, 2004, 12:36:40 PM EDT

Consider: "flip-flop" .eq. "flexible" -NT - (pwhysall) - Oct. 3, 2004, 12:50:44 PM EDT

You have already fallen into Bush's trap - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2004, 12:58:38 PM EDT

Sorry, you're incorrect. - (bepatient) - Oct. 3, 2004, 01:20:02 PM EDT

Sounded pretty clear to me, Bill. - (imric) - (41) - Oct. 3, 2004, 09:26:13 PM EDT

Not in the 30 second sound bite. - (bepatient) - (5) - Oct. 3, 2004, 02:38:01 PM EDT

Hmm. You are correct. - (imric) - (3) - Oct. 3, 2004, 06:52:33 PM EDT

Dunno - (bepatient) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2004, 07:55:11 PM EDT

Try this then: - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2004, 08:55:41 PM EDT

Okee dokee - (bepatient) - Oct. 3, 2004, 10:22:07 PM EDT

Of course our actions are subject to a test... - (GBert) - Oct. 3, 2004, 10:39:56 PM EDT

Re: Sounded pretty clear to me, Bill. - (danreck) - (34) - Oct. 4, 2004, 12:34:51 PM EDT

And the U.S. would still be part... - (ChrisR) - (5) - Oct. 4, 2004, 12:36:59 PM EDT

Re: And the U.S. would still be part... - (danreck) - (4) - Oct. 4, 2004, 12:50:20 PM EDT

60 years is not that recent. - (ChrisR) - (2) - Oct. 4, 2004, 01:00:52 PM EDT

Wrong question... - (danreck) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2004, 01:31:19 PM EDT

And as a joke, try reading this... - (danreck) - Oct. 4, 2004, 03:17:01 PM EDT

Ah, the old saw. - (pwhysall) - Oct. 4, 2004, 01:07:27 PM EDT

You've got to know how to translate US political speech. - (Another Scott) - (8) - Oct. 4, 2004, 12:48:06 PM EDT

Re: You've got to know how to translate US political speech. - (danreck) - (7) - Oct. 4, 2004, 12:57:04 PM EDT

Which border - (jbrabeck) - (6) - Oct. 4, 2004, 01:47:17 PM EDT

I was a linguist... - (danreck) - (5) - Oct. 4, 2004, 02:29:46 PM EDT

Were you cunning? - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2004, 02:42:43 PM EDT

As often as possible... - (danreck) - Oct. 4, 2004, 03:02:44 PM EDT

And I was stationed in Germany - (jbrabeck) - (2) - Oct. 4, 2004, 03:40:03 PM EDT

Re: And I was stationed in Germany - (danreck) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2004, 03:56:08 PM EDT

What was I doing? - (jbrabeck) - Oct. 4, 2004, 10:13:04 PM EDT

Horsecr@p. Our allies are insignifigant - (imric) - (18) - Oct. 4, 2004, 01:47:32 PM EDT

By the numbers... - (Yendor) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2004, 01:49:40 PM EDT

Of these, how many are supplying troops.... - (ChrisR) - Oct. 4, 2004, 01:54:57 PM EDT

Uninformed tosh, I'm afraid. - (pwhysall) - (6) - Oct. 4, 2004, 02:05:42 PM EDT

I don't question the valor - (imric) - Oct. 4, 2004, 07:36:22 PM EDT

Question for you - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Oct. 4, 2004, 07:41:34 PM EDT

Oh, no doubt. - (pwhysall) - (3) - Oct. 5, 2004, 02:29:28 PM EDT

Well, Kerry wouldn't notice Poland ;-) - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Oct. 5, 2004, 02:34:15 PM EDT

They probably didn't like the attention being drawn. - (ChrisR) - Oct. 5, 2004, 03:03:55 PM EDT

Yeah, yeah. So I exaggerated a little - (imric) - Oct. 5, 2004, 03:45:59 PM EDT

Re: Horsecr@p. Our allies are insignifigant - (danreck) - (8) - Oct. 4, 2004, 02:15:05 PM EDT

For additional reading on the subject... - (danreck) - (4) - Oct. 4, 2004, 03:45:05 PM EDT

Sounds like... - (ChrisR) - (2) - Oct. 4, 2004, 03:55:10 PM EDT

Re: Sounds like... - (danreck) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2004, 04:30:11 PM EDT

Getting all wet over the prospect of Winning Big, are we? (new thread) - (Ashton) - Oct. 4, 2004, 06:30:02 PM EDT

Okay, I gotta differ on the Phillipines. - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 4, 2004, 04:09:20 PM EDT

ROFLMAO - Allies ARE insignifigant - (imric) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2004, 03:49:10 PM EDT

Re: ROFLMAO - Allies ARE insignifigant - (danreck) - Oct. 4, 2004, 03:58:40 PM EDT

As near as I can tell... - (ChrisR) - Oct. 4, 2004, 03:57:39 PM EDT

Yes - (tuberculosis) - Oct. 4, 2004, 01:16:19 PM EDT

It amounts to the same thing. - (marlowe) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2004, 03:13:02 PM EDT

Re: It amounts to the same thing. - (daemon) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2004, 08:14:28 PM EDT

I was thinking more like.... - (ChrisR) - Oct. 3, 2004, 08:16:56 PM EDT

Re: Bush/Rove launches really underhanded new ads - (jb4) - Oct. 4, 2004, 09:15:11 AM EDT

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