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Post #177,304 by deSitter 10/1/04 9:04:47 AM Reply	No he doesn't The world isn't stupid - Bush represents oil money, not the American people. -drl
Post #177,309 by admin 10/1/04 9:25:34 AM Reply	You're missing my point. He represents the U.S. He's the President. That's how it is. He signs the treaties, he talks with the other world leaders. He may not represent the views of you and me, but as far as what counts on the world stage (not opinion, but how things work) he represents us. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #177,312 by mmoffitt 10/1/04 9:32:29 AM Reply	Beg to differ, slightly. Officially, he represents us. However, I can't tell you how many people abroad I've heard from directly and through my father who remains in contact with quite a few people there (many, many contacts from Russia, Bosnia, Germany, etc. from my dad's handful of stints w/Soros Foundation organizations) who say that they are always aware of "how Bush came to power." That said, they are watching this election closely and if it turns out that Bush actually wins the election this time, then I think it would be fair to say "Bush represents the US" and that is how the folks I've heard from will see it as well. That, more than anything else, is why Bush must be defeated again this time around in my view. bcnu, Mikem "The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism." -Ted Grant
Post #177,317 by admin 10/1/04 9:49:57 AM Reply	Er, no, you don't. That's all I'm saying. Officially, he represents us. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #177,319 by mmoffitt 10/1/04 10:13:47 AM Reply	Er, okay, but ... that isn't exactly what you said. You said, "He represents the U.S. He's the President. That's how it is." The difference is subtle, but important. bcnu, Mikem "The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism." -Ted Grant
Post #177,376 by admin 10/1/04 3:41:21 PM Reply	Re: Er, okay, but ... Which is why I also said, he may not represent what you and I think, but he still represents the U.S. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #177,380 by mmoffitt 10/1/04 4:40:52 PM Reply	Better. "He may not represent the views of the majority of Americans, nor any Americans who believe in the principles set forth in the US Constitution, but he does formally, technically, and officially represent the United States." D'accord? ;-) bcnu, Mikem "The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism." -Ted Grant
Post #177,384 by admin 10/1/04 4:46:50 PM Reply	Ar. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."

Has tonight's debate already happened? - (Yendor) - (46) - Sept. 30, 2004, 03:46:53 PM EDT

Looks like they are planning ahead - (JayMehaffey) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2004, 04:19:09 PM EDT

--kinda like an obit for a famous deceased [man, country] -NT - (Ashton) - Sept. 30, 2004, 05:47:30 PM EDT

"they decide who won" - (Arkadiy) - Sept. 30, 2004, 05:55:05 PM EDT

It's gone now. Who won? :-\\ -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2004, 06:01:46 PM EDT

Quoted for Great Justice - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2004, 06:35:06 PM EDT

Be interesting to do a difference analysis - (jb4) - Sept. 30, 2004, 06:51:21 PM EDT

Watching it now. - (Silverlock) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2004, 09:34:34 PM EDT

We're also watching it - (Nightowl) - Sept. 30, 2004, 09:37:32 PM EDT

Revenge of the id -NT - (deSitter) - Sept. 30, 2004, 10:10:15 PM EDT

Re: Watching it now. comments from da boss - (daemon) - Sept. 30, 2004, 10:33:29 PM EDT

Happening alright - (deSitter) - (18) - Sept. 30, 2004, 10:09:51 PM EDT

ICLRPD - (rcareaga) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2004, 10:35:42 PM EDT

Re: ICLRPD - (daemon) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2004, 10:39:12 PM EDT

This msg courtesy of the Imus Republican Arty -NT - (deSitter) - Sept. 30, 2004, 10:51:44 PM EDT

Agree. - (bepatient) - (12) - Sept. 30, 2004, 10:55:00 PM EDT

Re: Agree. - (deSitter) - (11) - Sept. 30, 2004, 10:57:45 PM EDT

No, it's painful. - (admin) - (10) - Sept. 30, 2004, 11:51:34 PM EDT

He is? - (deSitter) - (9) - Oct. 1, 2004, 12:46:21 AM EDT

He is what? - (admin) - (8) - Oct. 1, 2004, 08:02:01 AM EDT

No he doesn't - (deSitter) - (7) - Oct. 1, 2004, 09:04:47 AM EDT

You're missing my point. - (admin) - (6) - Oct. 1, 2004, 09:25:34 AM EDT

Beg to differ, slightly. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Oct. 1, 2004, 09:32:29 AM EDT

Er, no, you don't. - (admin) - (4) - Oct. 1, 2004, 09:49:57 AM EDT

Er, okay, but ... - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Oct. 1, 2004, 10:13:47 AM EDT

Re: Er, okay, but ... - (admin) - (2) - Oct. 1, 2004, 03:41:21 PM EDT

Better. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2004, 04:40:52 PM EDT

Ar. -NT - (admin) - Oct. 1, 2004, 04:46:50 PM EDT

Looks like a technical to me - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2004, 11:08:40 PM EDT

"Sudden Death"....Apt phrase, indeed! -NT - (jb4) - Oct. 1, 2004, 09:20:28 AM EDT

It is now - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2004, 10:54:32 PM EDT

Utterly disagree - (deSitter) - Sept. 30, 2004, 10:59:44 PM EDT

Agree. - (admin) - Sept. 30, 2004, 11:53:54 PM EDT

It was a tie. - (Another Scott) - (13) - Sept. 30, 2004, 11:17:08 PM EDT

Mostly agree, but would give Kerry slight edge. - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 30, 2004, 11:37:05 PM EDT

It matters not who won . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2004, 11:44:54 PM EDT

Yup. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2004, 11:48:08 PM EDT

Right, and if the media says . . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2004, 12:26:15 AM EDT

No chance of that. - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 1, 2004, 09:18:40 AM EDT

Boundless cynicism -NT - (deSitter) - Oct. 1, 2004, 12:43:09 AM EDT

An unscientific survey says it DID change some votes - (jb4) - Oct. 1, 2004, 09:26:13 AM EDT

On bilateral talks - (drewk) - (5) - Oct. 1, 2004, 09:41:10 AM EDT

Re: On bilateral talks - (rcareaga) - (4) - Oct. 1, 2004, 08:52:48 PM EDT

But...here's the spin... - (bepatient) - (3) - Oct. 1, 2004, 08:55:55 PM EDT

This must be that exclusive-OR I've heard so much about - (Ashton) - (2) - Oct. 1, 2004, 10:07:50 PM EDT

Used the same by Kerry camp - (bepatient) - (1) - Oct. 2, 2004, 08:43:13 AM EDT

According to your military - (jake123) - Oct. 2, 2004, 10:19:27 AM EDT

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