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New It is now
Much as it distresses me to say it, I'm not optimistic about the result.

What Bush wanted to do was reinforce people's impression of him, and leave a couple of negative tags on Kerry. What Kerry wanted to do was make people understand that Bush has bad policies and distorts the truth.

Bush succeeded in his goals ("How can you lead troops when you say wrong war, wrong time, wrong place? A commander in chief doesn't do that."). Kerry tried, but he should have had more sets of simple, damning facts to put on Bush. (I liked the point about Bush pulling inspectors out of North Korea and then they got weapons, too bad he only said it once.)

Kerry didn't do badly. But it wasn't the convincing win that I'd like to have seen.

Cheers,
Ben
About the use of language: it is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead. -- Edsger W. Dijkstra
New Utterly disagree
It was Kennedy-Nixon redux. Even the relative positions on the stage was similar. You can see it online - GIYF.

I also won a bet. Bush said "new-q-ler" :)

-drl
New Agree.
Kerry needs to show how Bush has flip-flopped. That's the best defense, IMO.

Homeland security or no homeland security? Was it WMD or not WMD? etc.

I was hoping to hear about Bush's vacations too... :-P
Regards,

-scott anderson

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     Has tonight's debate already happened? - (Yendor) - (46)
         Looks like they are planning ahead - (JayMehaffey) - (2)
             --kinda like an obit for a famous deceased [man, country] -NT - (Ashton)
             "they decide who won" - (Arkadiy)
         It's gone now. Who won? :-\\ -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2)
             Quoted for Great Justice - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                 Be interesting to do a difference analysis - (jb4)
         Watching it now. - (Silverlock) - (3)
             We're also watching it - (Nightowl)
             Revenge of the id -NT - (deSitter)
             Re: Watching it now. comments from da boss - (daemon)
         Happening alright - (deSitter) - (18)
             ICLRPD - (rcareaga) - (2)
                 Re: ICLRPD - (daemon) - (1)
                     This msg courtesy of the Imus Republican Arty -NT - (deSitter)
             Agree. - (bepatient) - (12)
                 Re: Agree. - (deSitter) - (11)
                     No, it's painful. - (admin) - (10)
                         He is? - (deSitter) - (9)
                             He is what? - (admin) - (8)
                                 No he doesn't - (deSitter) - (7)
                                     You're missing my point. - (admin) - (6)
                                         Beg to differ, slightly. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                             Er, no, you don't. - (admin) - (4)
                                                 Er, okay, but ... - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                     Re: Er, okay, but ... - (admin) - (2)
                                                         Better. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                             Ar. -NT - (admin)
             Looks like a technical to me - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                 "Sudden Death"....Apt phrase, indeed! -NT - (jb4)
         It is now - (ben_tilly) - (2)
             Utterly disagree - (deSitter)
             Agree. - (admin)
         It was a tie. - (Another Scott) - (13)
             Mostly agree, but would give Kerry slight edge. - (a6l6e6x)
             It matters not who won . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                 Yup. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                     Right, and if the media says . . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                         No chance of that. - (mmoffitt)
                 Boundless cynicism -NT - (deSitter)
             An unscientific survey says it DID change some votes - (jb4)
             On bilateral talks - (drewk) - (5)
                 Re: On bilateral talks - (rcareaga) - (4)
                     But...here's the spin... - (bepatient) - (3)
                         This must be that exclusive-OR I've heard so much about - (Ashton) - (2)
                             Used the same by Kerry camp - (bepatient) - (1)
                                 According to your military - (jake123)

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