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New Happening alright
Kerry is smoking Shrub like a side of bacon. The latter is a grunting, sniffling, prissy moron caught with his brain down. Kerry is cool, calm, and in charge of facts. It's Marlowe vs. Mountbatten.
-drl
Expand Edited by deSitter Sept. 30, 2004, 10:09:51 PM EDT
New ICLRPD
"It's Marlowe vs. Mountbatten"

cordially,
Cthulhu for President. Why vote for a lesser evil?
New Re: ICLRPD
marlowe vs a fellow full of grenade holes?
we're all together in the green in the green
dancing to the tune of tommy gun
regards,.
daemon
New This msg courtesy of the Imus Republican Arty
-drl
New Agree.
Bush was toasted.

The last 2 30 second extensions were actually painful to watch.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Re: Agree.
Painful? It's like winning the Super Bowl! PAINFUL?? I'M DANCING ON THE CEILING!!!
-drl
New No, it's painful.
That man represents the U.S. right now. He's painful to watch.

Comment heard in the "after-spin": Bush pulled a Gore in the cut-away shots. Many times he looked angry and dispeptic while Kerry was speaking. Kerry just took notes and looked amiable while Bush was speaking.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New He is?
Those things with arms and legs are not the Honored Right, they are the Proto Fascist Automatons. Marlowe and his gutter ilk having NOTHING in common with honorable people like Goldwater and Eisenhower, Phillips and Buchanan.

-drl
New He is what?
And it doesn't matter *what* he is. The President represents the U.S. to the world.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New No he doesn't
The world isn't stupid - Bush represents oil money, not the American people.
-drl
New You're missing my point.
He represents the U.S. He's the President. That's how it is. He signs the treaties, he talks with the other world leaders. He may not represent the views of you and me, but as far as what counts on the world stage (not opinion, but how things work) he represents us.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Beg to differ, slightly.
Officially, he represents us. However, I can't tell you how many people abroad I've heard from directly and through my father who remains in contact with quite a few people there (many, many contacts from Russia, Bosnia, Germany, etc. from my dad's handful of stints w/Soros Foundation organizations) who say that they are always aware of "how Bush came to power." That said, they are watching this election closely and if it turns out that Bush actually wins the election this time, then I think it would be fair to say "Bush represents the US" and that is how the folks I've heard from will see it as well.

That, more than anything else, is why Bush must be defeated again this time around in my view.
bcnu,
Mikem

"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
New Er, no, you don't.
That's all I'm saying. Officially, he represents us.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Er, okay, but ...
that isn't exactly what you said. You said, "He represents the U.S. He's the President. That's how it is." The difference is subtle, but important.
bcnu,
Mikem

"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
New Re: Er, okay, but ...
Which is why I also said, he may not represent what you and I think, but he still represents the U.S.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Better.
"He may not represent the views of the majority of Americans, nor any Americans who believe in the principles set forth in the US Constitution, but he does formally, technically, and officially represent the United States."

D'accord? ;-)
bcnu,
Mikem

"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
New Ar.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Looks like a technical to me
I would judge the debate a win for Kerry but on technical points not a knock out. Neither side got in a knock out punch, neither side fell down. Kerry got in more good body jabs, and Bush stumbled a few times.

Bush made better use of the 1 minute extensions. Having Leher extend the questions when Bush wanted to say something, which Kerry never did. But Kerry was better on the rebounds then Bush and kept Bush from landing any heavy blows that way.

Both of the them made some statements I really question. Bush has a habit of taking credit for things he was forced to do against his will, mentioning Homeland security, going to the UN for backing and multiparty talks with North Korea. Kerry mentioned Bin Laden in Afgansitan, and his appropriations votes.

Looks like we are going down to the wire on this one, I just hope we can avoid a sudden death overtime like last election.

Jay
New "Sudden Death"....Apt phrase, indeed!
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

     Has tonight's debate already happened? - (Yendor) - (46)
         Looks like they are planning ahead - (JayMehaffey) - (2)
             --kinda like an obit for a famous deceased [man, country] -NT - (Ashton)
             "they decide who won" - (Arkadiy)
         It's gone now. Who won? :-\\ -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2)
             Quoted for Great Justice - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                 Be interesting to do a difference analysis - (jb4)
         Watching it now. - (Silverlock) - (3)
             We're also watching it - (Nightowl)
             Revenge of the id -NT - (deSitter)
             Re: Watching it now. comments from da boss - (daemon)
         Happening alright - (deSitter) - (18)
             ICLRPD - (rcareaga) - (2)
                 Re: ICLRPD - (daemon) - (1)
                     This msg courtesy of the Imus Republican Arty -NT - (deSitter)
             Agree. - (bepatient) - (12)
                 Re: Agree. - (deSitter) - (11)
                     No, it's painful. - (admin) - (10)
                         He is? - (deSitter) - (9)
                             He is what? - (admin) - (8)
                                 No he doesn't - (deSitter) - (7)
                                     You're missing my point. - (admin) - (6)
                                         Beg to differ, slightly. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                             Er, no, you don't. - (admin) - (4)
                                                 Er, okay, but ... - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                     Re: Er, okay, but ... - (admin) - (2)
                                                         Better. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                             Ar. -NT - (admin)
             Looks like a technical to me - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                 "Sudden Death"....Apt phrase, indeed! -NT - (jb4)
         It is now - (ben_tilly) - (2)
             Utterly disagree - (deSitter)
             Agree. - (admin)
         It was a tie. - (Another Scott) - (13)
             Mostly agree, but would give Kerry slight edge. - (a6l6e6x)
             It matters not who won . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                 Yup. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                     Right, and if the media says . . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                         No chance of that. - (mmoffitt)
                 Boundless cynicism -NT - (deSitter)
             An unscientific survey says it DID change some votes - (jb4)
             On bilateral talks - (drewk) - (5)
                 Re: On bilateral talks - (rcareaga) - (4)
                     But...here's the spin... - (bepatient) - (3)
                         This must be that exclusive-OR I've heard so much about - (Ashton) - (2)
                             Used the same by Kerry camp - (bepatient) - (1)
                                 According to your military - (jake123)

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