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New Quoted for Great Justice
CORAL GABLES, Fla. Sept. 30, 2004 \ufffd After a deluge of campaign speeches and hostile television ads, President Bush and challenger John Kerry got their chance to face each other directly Thursday night before an audience of tens of millions of voters in a high-stakes debate about terrorism, the Iraq war and the bloody aftermath.

The 90-minute encounter was particularly crucial for Kerry, trailing slightly in the polls and struggling for momentum less than five weeks before the election. The Democratic candidate faced the challenge of presenting himself as a credible commander in chief after a torrent of Republican criticism that he was prone to changing his positions.

Bush was expected to confront questions about leading the nation into war on the still-unproven premise that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. He also has faced accusations that he lacked a strategy to deal with the violence and chaos that have left more than 1,000 Americans dead and that the Iraq war has diverted U.S. attention from al-Qaida and other terrorists.

With a record of four years in office to defend, Bush had a debate strategy of being optimistic about Iraq but acknowledging that times were tough. His stance is that Americans know he is a decisive leader even if they don't always agree with his decisions and that Kerry has taken conflicting positions on Iraq and can't be trusted to lead the nation.

Although Kerry voted to give Bush authority to invade Iraq, he says he would not have followed Bush's path to war a path that alienated allies and, the Democrat says, left Americans less secure. Kerry argues Bush is out of touch with reality, paints too rosy a picture about Iraq and lacks a strategy to end the crisis.

Kerry also says Bush has neglected other major problems like North Korea and Iran, two nations suspected of pursing nuclear weapons.

Kerry, in a taped interview on ABC's "Good Morning America" on Thursday, said, "George Bush is scaring America. He's talking terror every day, and people see terrible images of what's happening in the world, and they're real."

Bush spent the morning comforting hurricane victims on his fifth survey of Florida areas hit by storms. At the Martin County, Fla., Red Cross center, Bush thanked volunteers for showing "the true heart of America. We long to help somebody when they're hurting."

The debate's focus on Iraq was sharpened by bombings in Baghdad Thursday that killed three dozen children.

Ahead in the polls, Bush could afford to settle for a debate draw while Kerry needed something to break the status quo. Some Democrats saw the debates as the last chance for a Kerry breakout.

Thursday night's meeting at the University of Miami was the first of three Bush-Kerry debates over a two-week period. Neither side was underestimating its importance with a TV audience of 30 million to 40 million expected. Almost a third of people surveyed say the debates will be a deciding factor in how they vote.

The first debate drew the nation's attention to hurricane-battered Florida and its political importance. Florida swung the presidency to Bush in the disputed 2000 election and could determine whether he wins re-election.

The debates were staged under a rigid set of rules negotiated by the candidates' representatives to limit spontaneity and opportunities for back-and-forth exchanges.
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New Be interesting to do a difference analysis
on the above capture and the final publication, just to see what changed....
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

     Has tonight's debate already happened? - (Yendor) - (46)
         Looks like they are planning ahead - (JayMehaffey) - (2)
             --kinda like an obit for a famous deceased [man, country] -NT - (Ashton)
             "they decide who won" - (Arkadiy)
         It's gone now. Who won? :-\\ -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2)
             Quoted for Great Justice - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                 Be interesting to do a difference analysis - (jb4)
         Watching it now. - (Silverlock) - (3)
             We're also watching it - (Nightowl)
             Revenge of the id -NT - (deSitter)
             Re: Watching it now. comments from da boss - (daemon)
         Happening alright - (deSitter) - (18)
             ICLRPD - (rcareaga) - (2)
                 Re: ICLRPD - (daemon) - (1)
                     This msg courtesy of the Imus Republican Arty -NT - (deSitter)
             Agree. - (bepatient) - (12)
                 Re: Agree. - (deSitter) - (11)
                     No, it's painful. - (admin) - (10)
                         He is? - (deSitter) - (9)
                             He is what? - (admin) - (8)
                                 No he doesn't - (deSitter) - (7)
                                     You're missing my point. - (admin) - (6)
                                         Beg to differ, slightly. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                             Er, no, you don't. - (admin) - (4)
                                                 Er, okay, but ... - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                     Re: Er, okay, but ... - (admin) - (2)
                                                         Better. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                             Ar. -NT - (admin)
             Looks like a technical to me - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                 "Sudden Death"....Apt phrase, indeed! -NT - (jb4)
         It is now - (ben_tilly) - (2)
             Utterly disagree - (deSitter)
             Agree. - (admin)
         It was a tie. - (Another Scott) - (13)
             Mostly agree, but would give Kerry slight edge. - (a6l6e6x)
             It matters not who won . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                 Yup. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                     Right, and if the media says . . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                         No chance of that. - (mmoffitt)
                 Boundless cynicism -NT - (deSitter)
             An unscientific survey says it DID change some votes - (jb4)
             On bilateral talks - (drewk) - (5)
                 Re: On bilateral talks - (rcareaga) - (4)
                     But...here's the spin... - (bepatient) - (3)
                         This must be that exclusive-OR I've heard so much about - (Ashton) - (2)
                             Used the same by Kerry camp - (bepatient) - (1)
                                 According to your military - (jake123)

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