Peter, try reading it like this:

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Post #169,497 by jb4 8/16/04 12:18:45 PM Reply	Peter, try reading it like this: (the elipsis is in square brackets) "I could care less about Norm [but I don't]." or perhaps... "I could care less about Norm [if I wanted to, but since that would take additional effort, and I have already expended too much effort already on this, I don't]. See? Americlish! It's a wonderful language... ;-\ufffd jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #169,499 by drewk 8/16/04 12:24:47 PM Reply	No, I think it really is an implied 'not' Same way, "The server needs upgraded," means, "The server needs to be upgraded." Or, "The trash needs emptied," for, "The trash needs to be emptied." Dropping the "to be" has become very common the last couple of years. It bugs the shit out of me. === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #169,504 by ben_tilly 8/16/04 1:15:44 PM Reply	Isn't it annoying though... When Shakespeare's question is shortened down to, "or not". Delivered sarcastically, of course. Cheers, Ben To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #169,508 by FuManChu 8/16/04 1:31:12 PM Reply	As was the original ...delivered sarcastically, that is. Hamlet knows Polonius is eavesdropping.

Are you THAT fucking stoopud, Norm! - (jb4) - (94) - Aug. 10, 2004, 01:37:26 PM EDT

Yes, he is. -NT - (inthane-chan) - Aug. 10, 2004, 02:15:48 PM EDT

le mot juste in this connection - (rcareaga) - (68) - Aug. 10, 2004, 05:01:19 PM EDT

Much better than - (orion) - (66) - Aug. 11, 2004, 04:49:30 PM EDT

OhmygodIcantstoplaughing! - (inthane-chan) - (65) - Aug. 11, 2004, 05:11:28 PM EDT

Serenade for Beef Flute and Prozac, in Gee Whizzer -NT - (deSitter) - (2) - Aug. 11, 2004, 05:20:32 PM EDT

Stop! Yer killing me! - (jb4) - Aug. 11, 2004, 06:55:44 PM EDT

Ooops! Dupe! - (jb4) - Aug. 11, 2004, 06:56:20 PM EDT

You are a bore - (orion) - (59) - Aug. 11, 2004, 05:58:31 PM EDT

When I see something that approaches his genius here... - (inthane-chan) - (58) - Aug. 11, 2004, 06:11:42 PM EDT

You've missed it - (orion) - (57) - Aug. 12, 2004, 10:17:44 AM EDT

Learn to speak english. - (inthane-chan) - (2) - Aug. 12, 2004, 10:56:22 AM EDT

What's that aphorism about wrestling with a pig? - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 12, 2004, 12:24:17 PM EDT

I know. - (inthane-chan) - Aug. 12, 2004, 02:23:04 PM EDT

Maddox is a loudmouthed boor. -NT - (pwhysall) - Aug. 12, 2004, 12:18:06 PM EDT

thanks for clearing that up, then - (rcareaga) - (51) - Aug. 12, 2004, 02:58:30 PM EDT

Okay, that's a little too far, I think - (Nightowl) - (50) - Aug. 12, 2004, 11:44:20 PM EDT

Norman is as Norman does - (boxley) - (49) - Aug. 12, 2004, 11:58:18 PM EDT

Yeah, that's true but... - (Nightowl) - (48) - Aug. 13, 2004, 12:40:38 AM EDT

Seems like an upswing - (broomberg) - (47) - Aug. 13, 2004, 06:37:50 AM EDT

I could care less, actually. - (n3jja) - (18) - Aug. 13, 2004, 11:29:47 PM EDT

You mean you *couldn't* care less? -NT - (pwhysall) - (17) - Aug. 14, 2004, 01:00:37 AM EDT

No, that's an American idiom - (deSitter) - (12) - Aug. 14, 2004, 03:51:22 AM EDT

No they fucking don't, you philistinic colonial baboon. - (pwhysall) - (11) - Aug. 14, 2004, 04:50:28 AM EDT

It doesn't read correctly... - (bepatient) - Aug. 14, 2004, 09:02:06 AM EDT

Nopers. - (admin) - (6) - Aug. 14, 2004, 09:18:29 AM EDT

"Avoid it as Nonstandard" - (Another Scott) - (5) - Aug. 14, 2004, 09:35:38 AM EDT

Missing the point. - (admin) - (4) - Aug. 14, 2004, 10:19:11 AM EDT

saying it sarcastically - (pwhysall) - (2) - Aug. 14, 2004, 10:40:41 AM EDT

dont come here and ask someone to bum a fag then -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 14, 2004, 10:47:08 AM EDT

or knock up your girlfriend, for that matter. -NT - (bepatient) - Aug. 14, 2004, 11:06:03 AM EDT

Trouble is, too many *don't* say it sarcastically. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 14, 2004, 12:26:04 PM EDT

And we've discussed this before - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Aug. 14, 2004, 12:31:19 PM EDT

And I could not have cared less, then! - (folkert) - Aug. 14, 2004, 02:49:23 PM EDT

Sorry, but.. - (Ashton) - Aug. 15, 2004, 09:43:11 PM EDT

Peter, try reading it like this: - (jb4) - (3) - Aug. 16, 2004, 12:18:45 PM EDT

No, I think it really *is* an implied 'not' - (drewk) - (2) - Aug. 16, 2004, 12:24:47 PM EDT

Isn't it annoying though... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Aug. 16, 2004, 01:15:44 PM EDT

As was the original - (FuManChu) - Aug. 16, 2004, 01:31:12 PM EDT

I got your message - (orion) - (27) - Aug. 19, 2004, 01:11:58 PM EDT

Overgeneralizing - (ChrisR) - (22) - Aug. 19, 2004, 02:49:53 PM EDT

Once more, with clarity.... - (n3jja) - (21) - Aug. 20, 2004, 05:15:14 PM EDT

Those who call attention to themselves... - (ChrisR) - (19) - Aug. 20, 2004, 09:21:54 PM EDT

Re: Those who call attention to themselves... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2004, 09:46:19 PM EDT

Tis true. - (ChrisR) - Aug. 20, 2004, 10:22:59 PM EDT

Post of the Year, so far. IMHO. :-) Thanks Chris. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2004, 09:47:27 PM EDT

Wasted in the flame forums. - (ChrisR) - Aug. 20, 2004, 10:26:27 PM EDT

Great post, Chris... a few questions? - (Nightowl) - (8) - Aug. 20, 2004, 10:38:19 PM EDT

Wish I knew the answers - (ChrisR) - (7) - Aug. 20, 2004, 11:30:21 PM EDT

That makes two of us :) - (Nightowl) - (6) - Aug. 20, 2004, 11:47:42 PM EDT

Conscience is a tricky bugger - (ChrisR) - (5) - Aug. 21, 2004, 12:50:19 AM EDT

Thanks - (Nightowl) - (2) - Aug. 21, 2004, 01:31:24 AM EDT

you can be a good fucking flamer - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2004, 09:17:02 AM EDT

Oh sure, I can say the words - (Nightowl) - Aug. 21, 2004, 11:02:35 AM EDT

Some people always find a way to make the wrong choice. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2004, 09:55:22 AM EDT

No Kidding, Scott... - (Nightowl) - Aug. 21, 2004, 11:06:22 AM EDT

2 things - (n3jja) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2004, 12:10:07 AM EDT

*sniff* - (bepatient) - (2) - Aug. 21, 2004, 02:15:39 PM EDT

*snicker* -NT - (n3jja) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2004, 07:25:58 PM EDT

*shrug* couldn't help myself ;-) -NT - (bepatient) - Aug. 21, 2004, 10:05:16 PM EDT

sorry you had to have been there - (boxley) - Aug. 21, 2004, 12:12:11 AM EDT

We're not worthy...we're not worthy ;-) - (bepatient) - Aug. 21, 2004, 02:12:14 PM EDT

Spitting on a grave - (orion) - Aug. 25, 2004, 04:10:34 PM EDT

No you didn't. You're still here. - (n3jja) - (3) - Aug. 20, 2004, 04:43:08 PM EDT

Playing Russian Rulette with Norm? - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Aug. 20, 2004, 05:25:08 PM EDT

I believe that, "Blow Me", is the proper response. -NT - (n3jja) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2004, 05:41:26 PM EDT

Trust me, you aren't even worth it - (orion) - Aug. 25, 2004, 04:17:15 PM EDT

Now that you've made it clear - (Ashton) - Aug. 12, 2004, 05:17:25 PM EDT

ROFL!!!!! - (jb4) - (1) - Aug. 11, 2004, 06:53:46 PM EDT

I've got a few here: - (inthane-chan) - Aug. 11, 2004, 07:03:14 PM EDT

unfortunately Homo Fatuous is the Sunday crowd -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 11, 2004, 07:59:17 AM EDT

I am not stupid and I am sticking to my statement - (orion) - (16) - Aug. 10, 2004, 05:01:47 PM EDT

Re: I am not stupid &c - (rcareaga) - (2) - Aug. 10, 2004, 05:07:16 PM EDT

Ah yes - (orion) - Aug. 11, 2004, 04:52:02 PM EDT

Now that's an LRPD! - (lincoln) - Aug. 11, 2004, 04:53:57 PM EDT

WTF are you talking about, moron? - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Aug. 10, 2004, 05:39:47 PM EDT

No, WTF are you talking about moron? - (orion) - (4) - Aug. 11, 2004, 05:48:10 PM EDT

Watch Norm attempt his hand at facts - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Aug. 11, 2004, 06:52:12 PM EDT

Watch Ben go down in flames - (orion) - (2) - Aug. 12, 2004, 10:31:46 AM EDT

While. You're. Raving. - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 12, 2004, 05:33:31 PM EDT

Ah Ashton, yet you don't understand - (orion) - Aug. 25, 2004, 04:03:06 PM EDT

"Jane, you ignorant slut.." -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 10, 2004, 06:06:16 PM EDT

Norm's calculus: - (jb4) - (1) - Aug. 10, 2004, 06:25:22 PM EDT

On that...we may agree. - (bepatient) - Aug. 10, 2004, 10:17:17 PM EDT

I vaguely remember a quote from Chesterton - (Arkadiy) - (3) - Aug. 10, 2004, 06:30:22 PM EDT

But a US President said, "Your President is not a crook!" -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 11, 2004, 02:28:00 AM EDT

Re: I vaguely remember a quote from Chesterton - (deSitter) - (1) - Aug. 11, 2004, 02:32:16 AM EDT

Precisely - (Arkadiy) - Aug. 11, 2004, 11:07:23 AM EDT

Bzzt. - (bepatient) - (6) - Aug. 10, 2004, 10:15:45 PM EDT

Thank you - (orion) - Aug. 11, 2004, 04:40:43 PM EDT

Now, parse the WHOLE statement - (jb4) - (4) - Aug. 11, 2004, 07:05:21 PM EDT

Read it again Moron! - (orion) - (3) - Aug. 12, 2004, 10:20:17 AM EDT

He just wanted to yell at you. - (bepatient) - Aug. 12, 2004, 10:47:18 AM EDT

You do simile as badly as you do facts! - (jb4) - Aug. 12, 2004, 02:07:01 PM EDT

In that spirit, then - - (Ashton) - Aug. 12, 2004, 05:48:15 PM EDT

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