Still disagree

Post #162,333 by hnick 6/30/04 5:52:14 PM Reply	Still disagree I've re-read it and I still get the same impression: With each new lover you become a little more broken and a little less valuable. When Prince Charming comes along, all that is to offer is a pile of superficially pretty shards and wouldn't it be better if you hadn't ruined yourself? He may well be trying to address the quality vs. quantity issue, but I don't see it. I can see discouraging the sybarite lifestyle, especially for a teenager with today's sexually transmitted diseases. That does not appear to be the primary message to this fairy tale. I can see saying something like you probably shouldn't sleep with somebody you wouldn't want to marry, but nobody in their right mind would marry somebody they hadn't slept with. It's a completely different message. Most of the women that I have been associated with went by the fairy tale that you have to kiss a lot of toads to get a prince but if you kiss indiscriminately, you get warts... I generally tend to consider Mikey a miserable man for a number of reasons and this could be clouding my judgement to some degree, but I just can't get behind your evaluation. Oh well, next time, maybe... Hugh
Post #162,335 by mmoffitt 6/30/04 6:03:37 PM Reply	I am so glad my daughter has greater perspective than you. bcnu, Mikem If you can read this, you are not the President.
Post #162,336 by Ashton 6/30/04 6:07:05 PM Reply	Your POV understood But reading this fanciful metaphor as the entire Guide - and the Last One to be proffered - is silly. I expect its half-live might be measured in months, but that still beats Utter Confusion + hearsay from contemporaries {already Living That}. The brighter the kid, the shorter time is it 'sufficient' Myths I went-by at 10 were quite different from at 10.5, 11.5 - and bloody Way Different from 13+ I think (now) that there IS no Universally Good=Useful myth; not for anyone - that silly idea just spawns How-To books 'fitted for all', but actually for None. [a Secret, once out - that would doom the self-Help section of a bookstore] If Mike is pretty ept.. he'll construct the successor - one which introduces the Large Option: of thinking with some fledgling Discrimination; practising thus - for a life within a currently screwy milieu, unlikely to reform any time soon. NOBODY knows how to do that very well. (ie Introduce that concept in a personalized-Useful way.) Ashton, Hmmm.. maybe it takes a village.. [unless the village is high on Theocracy-for-$$, say] Make a good book title, though..
Post #162,342 by ben_tilly 6/30/04 6:57:20 PM Reply	The phrase "wife-whore dichotomy"... keeps running through my mind as this discussion continues. Anyone who has read some feminist literature will understand. Cheers, Ben To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #162,346 by Ashton 6/30/04 7:47:58 PM Reply	I "grew upwards" amidst the writing, then reading, pondering (and locally various practising of) those epistles. The Anger was justified, if ever there were justification. "Woman as Chattel" [as in Chattel Mortgage\ufffd] said it all, for those able to extrapolate exponentially from that core. What individuals did with that anger - Ah.. There was/is the litmus. That battle is far from over; we hear its excesses right Here in River City, from putatively 'enlightened' folk, too. (And that battle will continue to rage until the word whore is as unwelcome in even flame-'conversation' as, Dick Cheney would be unwelcome at a farmily picnic, except perhaps, stuffed & mounted?) From the ~~catacombs~~ catechisms - The Truth shall set you Free but first it will Piss You Off! G. Steinem A man's home is his nursery Clare Booth Luce, IIRC If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a Sacrament. from Zyklon B {named obv. after the cyanide-mix used by Nazis} cha cha cha
Post #162,353 by ben_tilly 6/30/04 9:09:52 PM Reply	Point What individuals did with that anger - Ah.. There was/is the litmus. I think that more than a few of us can empathize with that statement... Cheers, Ben To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #162,399 by mmoffitt 7/1/04 12:04:57 AM Reply	Care to enlighten me? I generally tend to consider Mikey a miserable man for a number of reasons... I mean, I am genuinely interested in what it is that makes me a "miserable" character in the eyes of some one whose first post is a personal attack. It must be really bad, man, if I seem offensive to you. bcnu, Mikem If you can read this, you are not the President.

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