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New It's just true
These two are indistiguishable. Mama's boys, dodged Vietnam, didn't inhale/snort, manipulative speakers, party animal daughters, a drone for a vice president, free-traders and welfare busters, stupid hair, shit-eating grin, bumpkins, incapable of admitting errors, etc. etc.

They are representative of a particular type, the baby boomer college crowd, who stomped on tradition and real service, and are thoroughgoing radicals with a poor understanding of history and an anti-Copernican self-centeredness.
-drl
New Are you now daft?
A messiah-complex trumps every manner of sexual infantilism, big hair or the normal neurotic list which accompanies immersion in Murican culture. This nutcase, with 90% of the Rapturin-Out folks as got him in - "answers only to [what he imagines to be Their] 'God'"; no slightest concept of what a 'Constitution' might mean. No sense of duty to its content. Remember? -Crusade-

That aberration *alone* makes the scale of Shrub's monstrousness FAR MORE DANGEROUS to the continuing non-use of nukes in the world, than the hundreds of things which Clinton might ? have done: but. never. Did.

The intelligence/character aspect is just as bad;
I don't give a shit about how cleverly he plays the folksy card - and how compelling that is proven to be, to the vacant - Shrub's execrable absence of interest in (thus knowledge of) history, and of how the non-rich actually live, means that he can next go off on any cockamamie tangent as might seem capable of diverting attention; and saving his sinecure. He has demonstrated how much he will dissemble ex post facto. How many examples would you need?

[Now tell me again about Clinton's 'silver spoon', that it was his $$ and 'family connections' which got him a Rhodes stipend.]

You may dislike both for their being polar opposites to (your image of) Stonewall Jackson or Audie Murphy - but that does not make them alike or in any way equivalent.

That's plain fucking Language Murder, closely akin to Jesuit simplification right on down to meaninglessness.
New lack of historical knowledge? Did pretty well in History
appeared to be one of the classes he wasnt sleeping in.
thanx,
bill
Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518
I wondered what Darwinian moment had to effect itself before we devolved from children flying paper flags in the sky to half formed creatures thundering in a wall of horns down the road to Roncevaux. James Lee Burke
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New Rote memorization, obviously. No comprehension / no use.
New How dare you question their hero ? ;-)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New In the depraved Murican sense of 'Hero'-worship
as seen on Tee Vee Selling Stuff -

Anyone with a demonstrated ability to complete first a sentence, then a paragraph, then sum-up an actual train of *thought* possessed of a premise, a middle and a closing

..and remember from whence he began, accurately:

WOULD be a 'Hero', for rarity alone.


IF.. Bin-L hadn't left that rocketed-site a tad early.. -???-
The entire world would be different. There'd Be No Shrub (known outside of 100%-Death Row in the Wastelands of Texas, agonizin about, Did Daddy Really Like Me Best?

At least this 'Hero' knew Who The Fuck bin-L WAS..
Hint: not just an [oil] buddy to invite to the farmily compound, while lookin fer new side-bizness.
New Sorry Ashton...
But by that definition, Ronald Reagan would have to be "great" as well...
Not trying to pick a fight, but you were the one waxing on about over-simplification, no?

Did I mention that I hate election years?
Just a few thoughts,

Danno
New Engl-Lit Hero - yes!.. (well.. in *that* milieu)
(But expressing an idea in a complete sentence has zippo to do with the veracity or usefulness of said idea ;-)

But then.. if Billy, Trump are heroes -?- WTF does 'Hero' mean in '04, anyway?
ie
What's the meaning of 'is'?



See!? - - - Clinton was merely Prescient [too!]

..while dealing with the required bafflegab of The Law, as forces such inanities upon the victim-in-stocks, (about to be railroaded for a non-crime 'twixt two-Murican-adult-children cha cha cha) == pro forma.




In the final analysis, everything is related to everything else
-- Ashley Brilliant
     Pewling sophistry, Ross? - (Ashton) - (60)
         He's got a point. - (Another Scott) - (57)
             You are out of your FUCKING MIND starting a post like that. - (mmoffitt) - (52)
                 Thank you. I'll be here all week. Next week too. -NT - (Another Scott)
                 It's just true - (deSitter) - (7)
                     Are you now daft? - (Ashton) - (2)
                         lack of historical knowledge? Did pretty well in History - (boxley) - (1)
                             Rote memorization, obviously. No comprehension / no use. -NT - (Ashton)
                     How dare you question their hero ? ;-) -NT - (bepatient) - (3)
                         In the depraved Murican sense of 'Hero'-worship - (Ashton) - (2)
                             Sorry Ashton... - (danreck) - (1)
                                 Engl-Lit Hero - yes!.. (well.. in *that* milieu) - (Ashton)
                 well Im glad you finally admit your lack of brainpower - (boxley) - (42)
                     Taking remedial math are we? - (mmoffitt) - (41)
                         clinton !=surplus - (boxley) - (40)
                             SS is off budget. HTH. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (39)
                                 It shouldn't be - (ben_tilly) - (37)
                                     Um, can I hate you now? -NT - (inthane-chan) - (32)
                                         No - (ben_tilly) - (31)
                                             Let me see... - (inthane-chan) - (30)
                                                 <whine>Why ya gotta be-ah playa hatah, Yoda?</whine> -NT - (admin)
                                                 You are complaining about Seattle housing prices? - (ben_tilly) - (28)
                                                     Hey, no sweat. - (inthane-chan) - (18)
                                                         Enlighten me - (ben_tilly) - (17)
                                                             Nope, not that rich. :P - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                                                 It could be worse - (ben_tilly)
                                                             Re: Drew. You do remember the forum you're in, right? ;-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                             Fuurrrrrrrrr Fuck's sake. - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                                                                 Wrong - (ben_tilly) - (12)
                                                                     Pull that number out of your ass did you? It's WAY off, - (mmoffitt) - (11)
                                                                         rather like the IT salary survey, pulled from /dev/ass -NT - (boxley)
                                                                         Those don't look like the ones that my wife quotes - (ben_tilly) - (9)
                                                                             Question, do these numbers sound reasonable? - (drewk) - (3)
                                                                                 They are missing something basic - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                                                     A union Lineman working a doctors hours - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                         Depends on the specialty. - (mmoffitt)
                                                                             Re: Those don't look like the ones that my wife quotes - (deSitter) - (1)
                                                                                 That I'll agree with - (ben_tilly)
                                                                             Course not, You don't expect an MD to say physicians are ... - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                                                 An exercise for you - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                                                     I worked in hospitals for six years. - (mmoffitt)
                                                     How about if I hate you because you walk to work? - (drewk) - (8)
                                                         Oh, I won't hate him for that last one. - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                                                             Wow, tornadoes AND earthquakes? - (admin) - (3)
                                                                 We've had 6-8 so far this year that I know of. - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                                                     More than we've had. -NT - (admin)
                                                                 ...& locusts & E-to-W lightning storms &meteorites &... -NT - (FuManChu)
                                                         You can hate yourself for that - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                             Was about 0 degrees the week I met you - (broomberg) - (1)
                                                                 What a coincidence - (ben_tilly)
                                     No argument. No cap. Benefits subject to needs analysis. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                         Needs Analysis - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                                             So get 1 and break it in 1/2 -NT - (broomberg) - (1)
                                                 Only possible with older pills - (Arkadiy)
                                 payroll taxes plus income taxes=budget -NT - (boxley)
             Seu av\ufffd suga ovos.___Eu sei o que minha av\ufffd sugou. -NT - (Ashton) - (3)
                 :-\ufffd My Portuguese is non-existent. Thank Diety for Google. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                     That's \\$DEITY. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                         Ha! You can't read! -NT - (Another Scott)
         heh, at those reunions we just discuss mounting -NT - (boxley) - (1)
             {cackle}__Box, you really ARE a - (Ashton)

You lucky bastard!
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