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Post #154,025 by jbrabeck 5/6/04 10:37:52 AM Reply	Didja miss the ;-j I remember the infinite thread discussion on what was a mainframe and don't want to go there again. Call it what you want. Everyone (personal and corporate) has a definition of what is "mainframe", "midrange" and "personal". Here, in just this data center, we have a IBM 3090 (?) mainframe with 36tb of data. And a "midrange" (over 500 Sun boxes) with 98tb of SAN data. And over 1400 NT (2003, 2000, NT) boxes with and unknown amount of storage. How do I know what's a mainframe? The boss told me. ;-)
Post #154,102 by lincoln 5/6/04 2:53:46 PM Reply	I did miss the ;-j but you're stretching definitions to fit your own opinions. "over 500 Sun boxes" does not equal a "midrange"; they're 500 INDIVIDUAL machines networked together to equal or beat a "midrange's" overall capabilities. And "1400 NT (2003, 2000, NT) boxes with and unknown amount of storage" are nothing more than just that - INDIVIDUAL units networked together. Cumulatively, their computing capacity easily tops one individual "midrange" computer, but that's understood. So when you call up IBM and say, "Please send me a midrange computer" do you expect 200 units delivered to your door, or do you expect just ONE computer to be delivered? lincoln "Windows XP has so many holes in its security that any reasonable user will conclude it was designed by the same German officer who created the prison compound in "Hogan's Heroes." - Andy Ihnatko, Chicago Sun-Times [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #154,104 by jbrabeck 5/6/04 3:04:04 PM Reply	Correction The "over 500 Sun boxes" was not meant to imply one midrange. Each, loosely termed, application may have anywhere from 1 to 25 Sun boxes. Each Sun box cluster (even if only 1 box) is considered a midrange system. The 1400 NT boxes are again either stand-alone or clustered to support applications. None of which are considered midrange. The USPS email system runs on NT boxes. (Special application prints out the email, puts a stamp on it and delivers in to your desktop ;-j ) If I were to call IBM for a midrange, I'd expect an iSeries (a.k.a. AS400).

Anybody know what McDonald's uses? - (mmoffitt) - (38) - May 5, 2004, 05:56:09 PM EDT

... - (admin) - (20) - May 5, 2004, 05:57:39 PM EDT

No. - (mmoffitt) - (19) - May 5, 2004, 06:18:33 PM EDT

Have to agree with the Tomcat people. - (admin) - (14) - May 5, 2004, 07:10:58 PM EDT

Re: seeing the application. - (mmoffitt) - (13) - May 6, 2004, 08:30:46 AM EDT

Bad code in any language is like that. - (admin) - (12) - May 6, 2004, 09:20:19 AM EDT

I'll try for permission to show you. - (mmoffitt) - (11) - May 6, 2004, 11:06:25 AM EDT

Bad code... - (admin) - (10) - May 6, 2004, 11:27:55 AM EDT

Rossish? :0) - (mmoffitt) - (9) - May 6, 2004, 11:33:45 AM EDT

I've used PHP. - (admin) - (8) - May 6, 2004, 11:35:32 AM EDT

To each his own. But, - (mmoffitt) - (7) - May 6, 2004, 11:52:05 AM EDT

If you have the inhouse experience - (admin) - (6) - May 6, 2004, 12:00:28 PM EDT

Heh. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - May 6, 2004, 05:16:20 PM EDT

WTF? - (admin) - (4) - May 6, 2004, 05:26:04 PM EDT

Yes, sig 11 w/different JDK's. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - May 10, 2004, 09:24:58 AM EDT

Re: Yes, sig 11 w/different JDK's. - (admin) - (2) - May 10, 2004, 10:16:56 AM EDT

Nope. No JNI. -NT - (mmoffitt) - May 10, 2004, 10:22:57 AM EDT

Dude, - (mmoffitt) - May 10, 2004, 07:47:34 PM EDT

This thread? - (admin) - (3) - May 6, 2004, 09:28:10 AM EDT

Yeah, that's it ;0) [Edit: Found my post} - (mmoffitt) - (2) - May 6, 2004, 11:14:25 AM EDT

Have you since checked the release notes... - (admin) - (1) - May 6, 2004, 11:33:15 AM EDT

No, I haven't. Been too busy w/loads of other stuff. - (mmoffitt) - May 6, 2004, 11:46:17 AM EDT

Well, their store systems run on . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - May 5, 2004, 06:57:31 PM EDT

Shall we boycott McDonalds until they change that? :-) -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2) - May 5, 2004, 07:43:09 PM EDT

I already boycott McBurp, out of flavor not IT -NT - (boxley) - May 5, 2004, 07:52:09 PM EDT

I can't do that. - (Andrew Grygus) - May 5, 2004, 08:03:19 PM EDT

Tandem mainframe at Oak Brook, IL world HQ -NT - (lincoln) - (11) - May 5, 2004, 11:26:35 PM EDT

Make up your mind, is it Tandem or is it mainframe? :-P -NT - (drewk) - (10) - May 6, 2004, 01:50:30 AM EDT

Come on Drew, no baiting... - (jbrabeck) - (7) - May 6, 2004, 09:21:49 AM EDT

Your criteria has to be modified - (lincoln) - (3) - May 6, 2004, 10:17:34 AM EDT

Didja miss the ;-j - (jbrabeck) - (2) - May 6, 2004, 10:37:52 AM EDT

I did miss the ;-j - (lincoln) - (1) - May 6, 2004, 02:53:46 PM EDT

Correction - (jbrabeck) - May 6, 2004, 03:04:04 PM EDT

How about basing it on the crash test? - (bbronson) - (2) - May 6, 2004, 11:07:30 AM EDT

Dunno about that - (jbrabeck) - May 6, 2004, 11:11:46 AM EDT

I've only seen a midrange crash once. - (admin) - May 6, 2004, 11:34:07 AM EDT

I've already made up my mind - (lincoln) - (1) - May 6, 2004, 10:11:53 AM EDT

I don't have a horse in this race - (drewk) - May 6, 2004, 10:14:53 AM EDT

Thanks All! -NT - (mmoffitt) - May 6, 2004, 08:31:02 AM EDT

Please do not spit too loud, thank you.
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