I dunno, BeeP

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by jb4

4/16/04 2:01:17 PM

4/16/04 2:02:57 PM

I dunno, BeeP

Putting a martyr-wannabee behind bars for-basically-ever, and making sure they can't ever become martyrs strikes me as being a death worse than fate, and wholly appropriate punishment.

(And the occasional boo-foo would surely add insult to injury, as well.)

jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

Edited by jb4 April 16, 2004, 02:02:57 PM EDT

I dunno, BeeP

Putting a martyr-wannabee behind bars for-basically-ever, and making sure they can't ever become martyrs strikes mee as being a death worse than fate, and wholly appropriate punishment.

(And the occasional boo-foo would surely add insult to injury, as well.)

jb4
shrubbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

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testimony of Dr. Strangerice - (rcareaga) - (176) - April 8, 2004, 05:17:47 PM EDT

NPR stream at work. - (mmoffitt) - (31) - April 8, 2004, 04:11:25 PM EDT

My take since fall 2001 - (GBert) - (30) - April 9, 2004, 10:02:11 AM EDT

Heh. I'm not that jaded, but interestingly, ... - (mmoffitt) - (29) - April 12, 2004, 05:49:25 PM EDT

But you might become that jaded - (jb4) - (27) - April 12, 2004, 05:44:29 PM EDT

If that's true. - (mmoffitt) - (26) - April 12, 2004, 05:53:58 PM EDT

Dude...they weren't ELECTED, remember? - (jb4) - (25) - April 12, 2004, 06:07:54 PM EDT

name one scenario that gore wins - (boxley) - (24) - April 12, 2004, 06:23:29 PM EDT

'Cept Clinton *WAS* impeached IIRC... - (inthane-chan) - (1) - April 12, 2004, 06:40:28 PM EDT

true -NT - (boxley) - April 12, 2004, 06:41:35 PM EDT

Right, box. How'd I forget? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - April 13, 2004, 08:24:40 AM EDT

3k, would have pushed gore over, -NT - (boxley) - April 13, 2004, 08:40:44 AM EDT

Umm, count the votes? - (Silverlock) - (13) - April 13, 2004, 08:32:54 AM EDT

um, they did repeatedly in all counties - (boxley) - (12) - April 13, 2004, 08:39:47 AM EDT

You said name one. - (Silverlock) - (4) - April 13, 2004, 08:53:55 AM EDT

each method you describe doesnt get gore into the whitehouse - (boxley) - (3) - April 13, 2004, 09:42:01 AM EDT

Saying black is white doesn't make it so. -NT - (Silverlock) - (2) - April 13, 2004, 12:35:59 PM EDT

so why do you keep saying it? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - April 13, 2004, 12:43:06 PM EDT

I know you are but what am I? :) -NT - (Silverlock) - April 13, 2004, 01:33:03 PM EDT

Re: um, they did repeatedly in all counties - (inthane-chan) - (6) - April 13, 2004, 08:55:15 AM EDT

what roadblocks where in the constitution does it say revote - (boxley) - (5) - April 13, 2004, 09:38:20 AM EDT

The Constitution doesn't say ... - (mmoffitt) - (4) - April 13, 2004, 09:42:15 AM EDT

the constitution explicitly states how the president is - (boxley) - (3) - April 13, 2004, 09:44:40 AM EDT

So your answer is yes. ;-p -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - April 13, 2004, 09:46:19 AM EDT

you can abandon the constitution, I wont -NT - (boxley) - (1) - April 13, 2004, 09:50:36 AM EDT

Seems you *have*, already. -NT - (CRConrad) - April 13, 2004, 04:29:04 PM EDT

What if, what if, what if... - (jb4) - (5) - April 13, 2004, 01:42:45 PM EDT

nope electoral college voted him in, just like in the manual - (boxley) - (4) - April 13, 2004, 02:00:29 PM EDT

constitution sez, election by *properly elected* electoral. -NT - (CRConrad) - (3) - April 13, 2004, 04:30:19 PM EDT

you want to explain? - (boxley) - (2) - April 13, 2004, 06:29:25 PM EDT

Florida electoral college was -S-elected by US Supreme Court - (CRConrad) - (1) - April 14, 2004, 04:37:10 AM EDT

Florida electoral was not selected by the supremes - (boxley) - April 14, 2004, 08:22:23 AM EDT

ICLRPD (new thread) - (drewk) - April 12, 2004, 05:46:11 PM EDT

Re: testimony of Dr. Strangerice - (JayMehaffey) - (5) - April 8, 2004, 04:39:18 PM EDT

Not this crap again. - (bepatient) - (4) - April 8, 2004, 05:27:12 PM EDT

Nahnahnah. I ... cant .. hear ... you - (altmann) - (1) - April 8, 2004, 07:09:26 PM EDT

Same BS. - (bepatient) - April 8, 2004, 08:17:03 PM EDT

The point in this case is valid - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - April 8, 2004, 09:40:13 PM EDT

No they didn't. - (bepatient) - April 8, 2004, 09:52:33 PM EDT

Rice's testimony: executive summary - (rcareaga) - (5) - April 8, 2004, 10:35:59 PM EDT

Tom Shales' take. - (Another Scott) - (4) - April 9, 2004, 01:24:10 AM EDT

Interesting tidbit. - (inthane-chan) - (3) - April 9, 2004, 04:08:31 PM EDT

ADMIN: please fix the above post! - (jb4) - (2) - April 9, 2004, 04:06:45 PM EDT

Sorry! Fixed! -NT - (inthane-chan) - (1) - April 9, 2004, 04:08:55 PM EDT

Thanks! -NT - (jb4) - April 9, 2004, 04:16:45 PM EDT

I hope this is wrong. - (mmoffitt) - (131) - April 9, 2004, 09:47:37 AM EDT

Oh dear. - (bepatient) - (130) - April 9, 2004, 07:38:31 PM EDT

I hate to say it - (jake123) - (1) - April 10, 2004, 01:11:27 AM EDT

Nit: "win again". They have never won. They were appointed. -NT - (mmoffitt) - April 10, 2004, 01:14:49 PM EDT

I thought most had paid attention. - (mmoffitt) - April 10, 2004, 01:12:48 PM EDT

Yeah, someone did indeed say something different than her! - (jb4) - (126) - April 12, 2004, 01:11:47 PM EDT

I would guess... - (bepatient) - (41) - April 12, 2004, 02:03:42 PM EDT

It's not the Commission's Responsibility, it's ours. -NT - (mmoffitt) - April 12, 2004, 04:52:51 PM EDT

It wasn't historical at the time... -NT - (admin) - (3) - April 12, 2004, 05:10:01 PM EDT

It was over 3 yrs old at the time. - (bepatient) - (2) - April 12, 2004, 05:36:30 PM EDT

Re: It was over 3 yrs old at the time. - (admin) - (1) - April 12, 2004, 05:47:50 PM EDT

The document itself is in my post. HTH. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - April 12, 2004, 05:50:20 PM EDT

None so blind as they that won't see. - (mmoffitt) - (35) - April 12, 2004, 05:46:53 PM EDT

And so... - (bepatient) - (34) - April 12, 2004, 08:48:37 PM EDT

Nice duck. - (mmoffitt) - (33) - April 13, 2004, 08:20:25 AM EDT

Go ahead. - (bepatient) - (32) - April 13, 2004, 10:02:14 AM EDT

Can any of you clowns remember what you're arguing ABOUT? -NT - (pwhysall) - (30) - April 13, 2004, 10:36:20 AM EDT

what does that have to do with anything :-) -NT - (boxley) - April 13, 2004, 10:50:07 AM EDT

Oh, oh I am sorry,... - (bepatient) - April 13, 2004, 10:51:54 AM EDT

Here it is: It was over 3 yrs old at the time. - (mmoffitt) - (27) - April 13, 2004, 01:51:45 PM EDT

Re: Here it is: It was over 3 yrs old at the time. - (bepatient) - (26) - April 13, 2004, 02:15:58 PM EDT

You're just jaggin' me again, aren't you? - (mmoffitt) - (25) - April 13, 2004, 02:50:14 PM EDT

yeah and the feebs are still looking for hoffa :-) -NT - (boxley) - (2) - April 13, 2004, 02:56:06 PM EDT

<herring color=bright red>preceding post</herring> -NT - (jb4) - (1) - April 13, 2004, 05:01:36 PM EDT

name one case that wasnt broken by a rat - (boxley) - April 13, 2004, 10:26:00 PM EDT

You seem to be serious. - (bepatient) - (21) - April 13, 2004, 05:39:00 PM EDT

Even if I accept that, you must accept that ... - (mmoffitt) - (20) - April 13, 2004, 06:00:19 PM EDT

Certainly. - (bepatient) - (19) - April 13, 2004, 09:54:35 PM EDT

What was the title of the briefing? - (Silverlock) - (1) - April 13, 2004, 10:33:53 PM EDT

Discourse on whose terms. - (bepatient) - April 14, 2004, 07:19:15 AM EDT

If all the briefings were release, or even the full text ... - (mmoffitt) - (16) - April 14, 2004, 08:22:44 AM EDT

Nope, sorry, try again. - (bepatient) - (15) - April 14, 2004, 10:02:58 AM EDT

Just two cents... - (GBert) - April 14, 2004, 11:41:51 AM EDT

Well, at least you dropped the "3 year old" bit. <sigh> -NT - (mmoffitt) - (13) - April 14, 2004, 12:36:57 PM EDT

Point fingers all you like. - (bepatient) - (12) - April 14, 2004, 05:02:49 PM EDT

Where'd I say that? - (mmoffitt) - (11) - April 14, 2004, 05:12:14 PM EDT

No I didn't admit that. - (bepatient) - (10) - April 14, 2004, 08:38:22 PM EDT

Can we cut to the chase? - (pwhysall) - (9) - April 15, 2004, 01:48:15 AM EDT

Shall I quote more Python? -NT - (bepatient) - (8) - April 15, 2004, 02:51:02 AM EDT

Please do - (pwhysall) - (7) - April 15, 2004, 07:05:54 AM EDT

Right. What was I thinking? - (mmoffitt) - (6) - April 15, 2004, 09:55:04 AM EDT

Never mind. - (bepatient) - (5) - April 15, 2004, 01:29:05 PM EDT

And 2 == 1, for very large values of 1________:-\ufffd -NT - (jb4) - (1) - April 15, 2004, 02:00:34 PM EDT

:-D -NT - (mmoffitt) - April 15, 2004, 02:01:53 PM EDT

It finally makes sense. - (Silverlock) - (2) - April 15, 2004, 02:39:19 PM EDT

check out tom tommorow for the definitions - (boxley) - April 15, 2004, 02:41:47 PM EDT

That's an ancient remark. - (mmoffitt) - April 15, 2004, 04:48:53 PM EDT

You READ IT. - (mmoffitt) - April 13, 2004, 01:56:21 PM EDT

Here's a breakdown of her lies - (Silverlock) - (83) - April 12, 2004, 04:53:03 PM EDT

I've read through those. - (bepatient) - (81) - April 12, 2004, 05:35:34 PM EDT

Seems to me... - (admin) - April 12, 2004, 05:51:26 PM EDT

You SURE you read this somewhere? - (jb4) - (79) - April 12, 2004, 05:57:05 PM EDT

I did not have sex with that woman, miss lewinski - (boxley) - (78) - April 12, 2004, 06:07:38 PM EDT

Ermmmm.....Say What?!? - (jb4) - (77) - April 12, 2004, 06:13:00 PM EDT

Beeps point was quite clear, and you have watched it swish - (boxley) - (73) - April 12, 2004, 06:20:03 PM EDT

whew. - (bepatient) - (5) - April 12, 2004, 08:34:29 PM EDT

But your spelling is notoriously faulty - (jb4) - (4) - April 13, 2004, 02:03:11 PM EDT

Yup, got that; it's obvious. (WTF YM, "even" I can get it?) -NT - (CRConrad) - (3) - April 16, 2004, 09:35:36 AM EDT

Its a metaphor....or is that a simile...or a euphemism... - (jb4) - (2) - April 16, 2004, 09:58:23 AM EDT

I'm the fookin' native speaker. - (pwhysall) - (1) - April 16, 2004, 04:59:08 PM EDT

Sorry, mr Inferior Whisky-Like Beverage 4, but Peter's right -NT - (CRConrad) - April 19, 2004, 02:15:28 AM EDT

Nit - (Silverlock) - (66) - April 13, 2004, 08:50:08 AM EDT

Yes it is. - (bepatient) - (65) - April 13, 2004, 10:04:34 AM EDT

I've held these positions long before this doc came out - (Silverlock) - (64) - April 13, 2004, 12:39:27 PM EDT

None so blind as they can't see. - (bepatient) - (63) - April 13, 2004, 02:27:58 PM EDT

Guiduin invoked thread closed :-) -NT - (boxley) - (3) - April 13, 2004, 02:29:45 PM EDT

Who invoked Guido-an? -NT - (bepatient) - (2) - April 13, 2004, 02:31:46 PM EDT

And where's Nunzio? -NT - (inthane-chan) - April 13, 2004, 02:40:31 PM EDT

Gallic Godwin :-) -NT - (boxley) - April 13, 2004, 02:54:59 PM EDT

Small problem - (Silverlock) - (56) - April 13, 2004, 03:18:36 PM EDT

Don't joust with the Master - (jb4) - (55) - April 13, 2004, 05:06:08 PM EDT

They are his words. - (bepatient) - (54) - April 13, 2004, 05:44:24 PM EDT

The grasshopper objects. - (Silverlock) - (53) - April 13, 2004, 10:15:23 PM EDT

I don't believe - (bepatient) - (52) - April 13, 2004, 10:32:12 PM EDT

Have you all gone completely INSANE ??? - (CRConrad) - (51) - April 16, 2004, 09:34:55 AM EDT

Bravo - (jbrabeck) - April 16, 2004, 09:42:31 AM EDT

Ok. Call it what you want. - (bepatient) - (7) - April 16, 2004, 10:14:40 AM EDT

We are (used to be?) a nation of laws, beep. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - April 16, 2004, 10:36:04 AM EDT

I don't think you get it either. - (bepatient) - (3) - April 16, 2004, 10:39:20 AM EDT

Whose threatening? - (mmoffitt) - April 16, 2004, 10:41:35 AM EDT

I dunno, BeeP - (jb4) - April 16, 2004, 02:02:57 PM EDT

Depends on what you regard prison AS. - (pwhysall) - April 16, 2004, 04:51:36 PM EDT

Declare war then. - (pwhysall) - (1) - April 16, 2004, 04:50:37 PM EDT

war IS a business, when has it not been? - (boxley) - April 16, 2004, 06:53:07 PM EDT

Not all of us, but an alarmingly high percentage. - (mmoffitt) - April 16, 2004, 10:37:26 AM EDT

got yer declaration right here - (boxley) - (26) - April 16, 2004, 10:43:27 AM EDT

I declare War on Microsoft. - (mmoffitt) - (17) - April 16, 2004, 10:49:30 AM EDT

Its one thing to declare it. - (bepatient) - (16) - April 16, 2004, 10:53:28 AM EDT

Then I'd be a murderer, not a nation-state capable of - (mmoffitt) - (15) - April 16, 2004, 10:58:20 AM EDT

Ah. And what would the leader - (bepatient) - (14) - April 16, 2004, 11:13:14 AM EDT

Be very careful with that argument. - (mmoffitt) - (13) - April 16, 2004, 02:46:27 PM EDT

And what would these things do... - (bepatient) - (12) - April 16, 2004, 08:30:19 PM EDT

*Boggle* - (mmoffitt) - (11) - April 18, 2004, 12:43:48 PM EDT

We've been through this before. - (Another Scott) - (10) - April 18, 2004, 02:39:45 PM EDT

Why I cautioned Beep. - (mmoffitt) - (9) - April 18, 2004, 02:56:59 PM EDT

It wasn't funding I was discussing. - (bepatient) - (8) - April 18, 2004, 03:00:26 PM EDT

I (mis?)read this one. - (mmoffitt) - (7) - April 18, 2004, 03:03:28 PM EDT

I would generally say no. - (bepatient) - (6) - April 18, 2004, 03:05:49 PM EDT

Okay, I'll play. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - April 18, 2004, 03:09:13 PM EDT

We didn't. - (bepatient) - (4) - April 18, 2004, 03:17:20 PM EDT

? - (mmoffitt) - (3) - April 18, 2004, 03:34:08 PM EDT

So fine. - (bepatient) - (2) - April 18, 2004, 03:40:03 PM EDT

Vote for smarter people ;0) - (mmoffitt) - (1) - April 18, 2004, 03:58:18 PM EDT

I wish there were some to vote for. - (bepatient) - April 18, 2004, 10:55:33 PM EDT

So declare war, or else STFU. - (pwhysall) - (7) - April 16, 2004, 04:53:28 PM EDT

google bush declares war on Al Quida - (boxley) - (6) - April 16, 2004, 10:43:22 PM EDT

Neato. - (pwhysall) - (5) - April 19, 2004, 01:24:03 AM EDT

cant help if you are uneducated - (boxley) - (1) - April 19, 2004, 08:08:29 AM EDT

Whatever. -NT - (pwhysall) - April 19, 2004, 10:43:18 AM EDT

War on Terrorism as successful as the War on Drugs. - (Silverlock) - (2) - April 19, 2004, 09:30:38 AM EDT

Someone please fork this damn thing -NT - (drewk) - (1) - April 19, 2004, 09:44:02 AM EDT

Forked Dr. Strangelove. (new thread) - (jbrabeck) - April 19, 2004, 10:28:14 AM EDT

It's an old problem. - (Another Scott) - (13) - April 16, 2004, 10:43:31 AM EDT

And that attitude. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - April 16, 2004, 10:51:31 AM EDT

If you want it to be a "law enforcement issue" - (bepatient) - (4) - April 16, 2004, 10:57:17 AM EDT

You want it to be a "war"? - (mmoffitt) - (3) - April 16, 2004, 11:01:14 AM EDT

I want it solved. - (bepatient) - (2) - April 16, 2004, 11:12:01 AM EDT

Simple solution - (jbrabeck) - (1) - April 16, 2004, 11:48:30 AM EDT

When, indeed! - (jb4) - April 16, 2004, 02:06:32 PM EDT

That's not a declaration of war. - (pwhysall) - (6) - April 16, 2004, 04:57:41 PM EDT

But Peter, - (jbrabeck) - (4) - April 16, 2004, 05:09:12 PM EDT

Can someone please fork a new thread (or several)? -NT - (drewk) - (3) - April 16, 2004, 05:18:40 PM EDT

It'll probably die soon. - (Another Scott) - April 16, 2004, 05:24:10 PM EDT

Yeah darnit...FORK this thread! -NT - (bepatient) - (1) - April 16, 2004, 08:31:59 PM EDT

Knifing it is too much work -NT - (Arkadiy) - April 17, 2004, 12:48:40 PM EDT

Not in the traditional sense. - (Another Scott) - April 16, 2004, 05:22:25 PM EDT

4/13/2004 Tom Toles (78 kB .gif) (new thread) - (Another Scott) - April 13, 2004, 05:25:07 PM EDT

Yes, there are - those that *won't*, even though they *can*. - (CRConrad) - April 16, 2004, 09:35:30 AM EDT

Necroeqquiphilia can do that to a person. -NT - (altmann) - (2) - April 12, 2004, 06:26:48 PM EDT

Necroeqquiphilia; I'll have to remember that one ;-) -NT - (bbronson) - April 13, 2004, 12:20:46 PM EDT

ICLRPD (new thread) - (jb4) - April 13, 2004, 02:06:00 PM EDT

and they STILL don't get it! - (jb4) - April 12, 2004, 05:51:59 PM EDT

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