Post #151,138
4/14/04 10:02:58 AM
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Nope, sorry, try again.
You cannot judge it as current or historical unless you can prove that the President had not been advised of that UAE call in a previous briefing.
If he had been briefed on it, then it indeed, though only 3 months old, was actually historic information.
That was the point that you missed.
The other one you continue to miss is imbedded in your statement. If more gets released you will just pidgeon that into your preconceived nest of all other failings of >this< administration. Absolving the failings of 20 years of government (or longer) by blaming the guy with less than a year at the helm.
We had the man in crosshairs. Polls would have been unfavorable. So we didn't shoot, choosing instead to pelt the desert and an aspirin factory. Pointing that out to you is conidered "passing the buck" or "missing the point".
Where was the "number one priority" then?
In the exact place it was up until 9/11.
Until you get >that< you will remain part of the problem and not part of the solution.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #151,149
4/14/04 11:41:51 AM
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Just two cents...
One damning aspect of the brief for me is this.
Why, after seven months of trying to focus the President's attention on al Qaeda as an imminent threat, does the man still need historical info? He should be clamoring for the latest intel, asking every principal for their latest action reports, NOT still in the dark and in need of "so who is this guy again and why should I care?" info.
Giovanni
I'm not a complete idiot -- some parts are missing
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Post #151,153
4/14/04 12:36:57 PM
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Well, at least you dropped the "3 year old" bit. <sigh>
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Post #151,179
4/14/04 5:02:49 PM
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Point fingers all you like.
It seems to make y'all feel better to believe one person at fault as opposed to understanding the reality that the problem is systemic.
sigh yourself.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #151,181
4/14/04 5:12:14 PM
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Where'd I say that?
It seems to make y'all feel better to believe one person at fault as opposed to understanding the reality that the problem is systemic.
This started when you defended the outright lie Ms. Rice told during her sworn testimony. She said the document only contained old information of an historical nature.
That is clearly false, and you admitted as much. By no one standards is "current events" historical in nature. Feh!
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Post #151,191
4/14/04 8:38:22 PM
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No I didn't admit that.
You have inferred it and done so without any basis for the determination.
3 months old or 3 years old are both "historic information" if they have been reported on prior to that document. Since you have no information to prove that one way or the other, you prefer to simply say "she's lying".
That is based on your preconceptions, not on fact...as much as you would like to believe that all of these "facts" flying around are actually facts, which they aren't.
Lovin that spin I'm in...gimme that old black magic...
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Post #151,218
4/15/04 1:48:15 AM
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Can we cut to the chase?
<bepatient> You're a poopy-head!
<mmoffitt> No, you are!
<bepatient> neener! neener! You've got cooties!
<mmoffitt> At least I don't smell of *poo*
...
Peter
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Post #151,226
4/15/04 2:51:02 AM
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Shall I quote more Python?
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #151,227
4/15/04 7:05:54 AM
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Please do
It would be more enlightening than the current debate :-)
Peter
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Post #151,236
4/15/04 9:55:04 AM
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Right. What was I thinking?
Since when is "truth" important in American Politics?
In short, "Current Events" != "History"
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Post #151,261
4/15/04 1:29:05 PM
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Never mind.
Cannot comprehend that today's historical reference can be something discussed previously. Like yesterday.
To fine a point anyway for someone interested in painting with a very wide brush.
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Post #151,262
4/15/04 2:00:34 PM
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And 2 == 1, for very large values of 1________:-\ufffd
jb4
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Post #151,263
4/15/04 2:01:53 PM
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:-D
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Post #151,266
4/15/04 2:39:19 PM
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It finally makes sense.
Historical is anything older than now.
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It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand.
Mike Royko
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Post #151,267
4/15/04 2:41:47 PM
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check out tom tommorow for the definitions
Its bad to look in the past
unless the past is before 4 years ago.
Its bad to look at the future because unexpected things happen
it best to mind your business and look at the now or else you are unpatriotic :-)
thanx,
bill
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Post #151,279
4/15/04 4:48:53 PM
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That's an ancient remark.
Historical begins when you press <Enter>
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