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New whew.
I was dreading having to actually s p e l l it.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

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New But your spelling is notoriously faulty
Your pap about "actionable intelligence" is so red a herring that I could attach it to the end of a train in place of a FRED.

From the link:
The briefing also told the president that the "CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in UAE in May saying a group of bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives."

And the document also indicated that intelligence officials informed Bush they were aware of a long history of widespread Al Qaeda activity on U.S. soil that could help the terrorist network carry out assaults. "Al Qaeda members-- including some who are U.S. citizens--have resided in or traveled to the U.S. for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure that could aid attacks," it said.


Now, whether or not this is "actionable" is so beyond the point. The point is that we have here two concrete instances of intelligence in the report that points to al-Qaeda activity on our shores.

Have we all got that?

Now from the same link, Congaline opines (or, perhaps more accurately, prevaricates):
"It is just not the case that the Aug. 6 memorandum did anything but put together what the CIA decided that they wanted to put together about historical knowledge about what was going on, and a few things about what the FBI might be doing," she said under questioning from Commissioner Jamie Gorelick, a Democrat. "And so the light was shining abroad." [emphasis added]


Now, ignoring the shrubbish, "[...] put together what the CIA decided that they wanted to put together about historical knowledge about what was going on[...]", which is simply gas exapnding to fill a time limit (or perhaps more accurately, Condi trying to to formulate the "correct" response; remember, she's not a very good liar), the important part is the highlight: "[...] the light was shining abroad." No, it wasn't. It was shining right here, and it is so clear that even our resident non-native English speaker (that would be you, Sir Cyclic) can understand it.
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Yup, got that; it's obvious. (WTF YM, "even" I can get it?)
New Its a metaphor....or is that a simile...or a euphemism...
Oh, yeah...I know...onomatopoeia! Yeah,...that's it!

;-0

As far as WTFIM, you are the only non-native English speaker that I could think of here (well...there's Peter, but I didn't want to go there....)
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

Expand Edited by jb4 April 16, 2004, 09:58:23 AM EDT
New I'm the fookin' native speaker.
You lot are just speaking a sub-language :-)


Peter
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New Sorry, mr Inferior Whisky-Like Beverage 4, but Peter's right
     testimony of Dr. Strangerice - (rcareaga) - (176)
         NPR stream at work. - (mmoffitt) - (31)
             My take since fall 2001 - (GBert) - (30)
                 Heh. I'm not that jaded, but interestingly, ... - (mmoffitt) - (29)
                     But you might become that jaded - (jb4) - (27)
                         If that's true. - (mmoffitt) - (26)
                             Dude...they weren't ELECTED, remember? - (jb4) - (25)
                                 name one scenario that gore wins - (boxley) - (24)
                                     'Cept Clinton *WAS* impeached IIRC... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                         true -NT - (boxley)
                                     Right, box. How'd I forget? - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                         3k, would have pushed gore over, -NT - (boxley)
                                     Umm, count the votes? - (Silverlock) - (13)
                                         um, they did repeatedly in all counties - (boxley) - (12)
                                             You said name one. - (Silverlock) - (4)
                                                 each method you describe doesnt get gore into the whitehouse - (boxley) - (3)
                                                     Saying black is white doesn't make it so. -NT - (Silverlock) - (2)
                                                         so why do you keep saying it? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                             I know you are but what am I? :) -NT - (Silverlock)
                                             Re: um, they did repeatedly in all counties - (inthane-chan) - (6)
                                                 what roadblocks where in the constitution does it say revote - (boxley) - (5)
                                                     The Constitution doesn't say ... - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                                                         the constitution explicitly states how the president is - (boxley) - (3)
                                                             So your answer is yes. ;-p -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                                 you can abandon the constitution, I wont -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                     Seems you *have*, already. -NT - (CRConrad)
                                     What if, what if, what if... - (jb4) - (5)
                                         nope electoral college voted him in, just like in the manual - (boxley) - (4)
                                             constitution sez, election by *properly elected* electoral. -NT - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                 you want to explain? - (boxley) - (2)
                                                     Florida electoral college was -S-elected by US Supreme Court - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                         Florida electoral was not selected by the supremes - (boxley)
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (drewk)
         Re: testimony of Dr. Strangerice - (JayMehaffey) - (5)
             Not this crap again. - (bepatient) - (4)
                 Nahnahnah. I ... cant .. hear ... you - (altmann) - (1)
                     Same BS. - (bepatient)
                 The point in this case is valid - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                     No they didn't. - (bepatient)
         Rice's testimony: executive summary - (rcareaga) - (5)
             Tom Shales' take. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                 Interesting tidbit. - (inthane-chan) - (3)
                     ADMIN: please fix the above post! - (jb4) - (2)
                         Sorry! Fixed! -NT - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                             Thanks! -NT - (jb4)
         I hope this is wrong. - (mmoffitt) - (131)
             Oh dear. - (bepatient) - (130)
                 I hate to say it - (jake123) - (1)
                     Nit: "win again". They have never won. They were appointed. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                 I thought most had paid attention. - (mmoffitt)
                 Yeah, someone did indeed say something different than her! - (jb4) - (126)
                     I would guess... - (bepatient) - (41)
                         It's not the Commission's Responsibility, it's ours. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                         It wasn't historical at the time... -NT - (admin) - (3)
                             It was over 3 yrs old at the time. - (bepatient) - (2)
                                 Re: It was over 3 yrs old at the time. - (admin) - (1)
                                     The document itself is in my post. HTH. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                         None so blind as they that won't see. - (mmoffitt) - (35)
                             And so... - (bepatient) - (34)
                                 Nice duck. - (mmoffitt) - (33)
                                     Go ahead. - (bepatient) - (32)
                                         Can any of you clowns remember what you're arguing ABOUT? -NT - (pwhysall) - (30)
                                             what does that have to do with anything :-) -NT - (boxley)
                                             Oh, oh I am sorry,... - (bepatient)
                                             Here it is: It was over 3 yrs old at the time. - (mmoffitt) - (27)
                                                 Re: Here it is: It was over 3 yrs old at the time. - (bepatient) - (26)
                                                     You're just jaggin' me again, aren't you? - (mmoffitt) - (25)
                                                         yeah and the feebs are still looking for hoffa :-) -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                                             <herring color=bright red>preceding post</herring> -NT - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                 name one case that wasnt broken by a rat - (boxley)
                                                         You seem to be serious. - (bepatient) - (21)
                                                             Even if I accept that, you must accept that ... - (mmoffitt) - (20)
                                                                 Certainly. - (bepatient) - (19)
                                                                     What was the title of the briefing? - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                                                         Discourse on whose terms. - (bepatient)
                                                                     If all the briefings were release, or even the full text ... - (mmoffitt) - (16)
                                                                         Nope, sorry, try again. - (bepatient) - (15)
                                                                             Just two cents... - (GBert)
                                                                             Well, at least you dropped the "3 year old" bit. <sigh> -NT - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                                                                                 Point fingers all you like. - (bepatient) - (12)
                                                                                     Where'd I say that? - (mmoffitt) - (11)
                                                                                         No I didn't admit that. - (bepatient) - (10)
                                                                                             Can we cut to the chase? - (pwhysall) - (9)
                                                                                                 Shall I quote more Python? -NT - (bepatient) - (8)
                                                                                                     Please do - (pwhysall) - (7)
                                                                                                         Right. What was I thinking? - (mmoffitt) - (6)
                                                                                                             Never mind. - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                                                                                 And 2 == 1, for very large values of 1________:-\ufffd -NT - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                                                                     :-D -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                                                                                 It finally makes sense. - (Silverlock) - (2)
                                                                                                                     check out tom tommorow for the definitions - (boxley)
                                                                                                                     That's an ancient remark. - (mmoffitt)
                                         You READ IT. - (mmoffitt)
                     Here's a breakdown of her lies - (Silverlock) - (83)
                         I've read through those. - (bepatient) - (81)
                             Seems to me... - (admin)
                             You SURE you read this somewhere? - (jb4) - (79)
                                 I did not have sex with that woman, miss lewinski - (boxley) - (78)
                                     Ermmmm.....Say What?!? - (jb4) - (77)
                                         Beeps point was quite clear, and you have watched it swish - (boxley) - (73)
                                             whew. - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                 But your spelling is notoriously faulty - (jb4) - (4)
                                                     Yup, got that; it's obvious. (WTF YM, "even" I can get it?) -NT - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                         Its a metaphor....or is that a simile...or a euphemism... - (jb4) - (2)
                                                             I'm the fookin' native speaker. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                 Sorry, mr Inferior Whisky-Like Beverage 4, but Peter's right -NT - (CRConrad)
                                             Nit - (Silverlock) - (66)
                                                 Yes it is. - (bepatient) - (65)
                                                     I've held these positions long before this doc came out - (Silverlock) - (64)
                                                         None so blind as they can't see. - (bepatient) - (63)
                                                             Guiduin invoked thread closed :-) -NT - (boxley) - (3)
                                                                 Who invoked Guido-an? -NT - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                     And where's Nunzio? -NT - (inthane-chan)
                                                                     Gallic Godwin :-) -NT - (boxley)
                                                             Small problem - (Silverlock) - (56)
                                                                 Don't joust with the Master - (jb4) - (55)
                                                                     They are his words. - (bepatient) - (54)
                                                                         The grasshopper objects. - (Silverlock) - (53)
                                                                             I don't believe - (bepatient) - (52)
                                                                                 Have you all gone completely INSANE ??? - (CRConrad) - (51)
                                                                                     Bravo - (jbrabeck)
                                                                                     Ok. Call it what you want. - (bepatient) - (7)
                                                                                         We are (used to be?) a nation of laws, beep. - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                                                                                             I don't think you get it either. - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                                                                 Whose threatening? - (mmoffitt)
                                                                                                 I dunno, BeeP - (jb4)
                                                                                                 Depends on what you regard prison AS. - (pwhysall)
                                                                                         Declare war then. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                                             war IS a business, when has it not been? - (boxley)
                                                                                     Not all of us, but an alarmingly high percentage. - (mmoffitt)
                                                                                     got yer declaration right here - (boxley) - (26)
                                                                                         I declare War on Microsoft. - (mmoffitt) - (17)
                                                                                             Its one thing to declare it. - (bepatient) - (16)
                                                                                                 Then I'd be a murderer, not a nation-state capable of - (mmoffitt) - (15)
                                                                                                     Ah. And what would the leader - (bepatient) - (14)
                                                                                                         Be very careful with that argument. - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                                                                                                             And what would these things do... - (bepatient) - (12)
                                                                                                                 *Boggle* - (mmoffitt) - (11)
                                                                                                                     We've been through this before. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                                                                                                                         Why I cautioned Beep. - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                                                                                                                             It wasn't funding I was discussing. - (bepatient) - (8)
                                                                                                                                 I (mis?)read this one. - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                                                                                                                     I would generally say no. - (bepatient) - (6)
                                                                                                                                         Okay, I'll play. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                                                                                                                             We didn't. - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                                                                                                 ? - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                                                                                                                     So fine. - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                                                                                                         Vote for smarter people ;0) - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                                                                                                                             I wish there were some to vote for. - (bepatient)
                                                                                         So declare war, or else STFU. - (pwhysall) - (7)
                                                                                             google bush declares war on Al Quida - (boxley) - (6)
                                                                                                 Neato. - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                                                                                     cant help if you are uneducated - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                                         Whatever. -NT - (pwhysall)
                                                                                                     War on Terrorism as successful as the War on Drugs. - (Silverlock) - (2)
                                                                                                         Someone please fork this damn thing -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                                                             Forked Dr. Strangelove. (new thread) - (jbrabeck)
                                                                                     It's an old problem. - (Another Scott) - (13)
                                                                                         And that attitude. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                                                                             If you want it to be a "law enforcement issue" - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                                                 You want it to be a "war"? - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                                                                     I want it solved. - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                                                         Simple solution - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                                                                                             When, indeed! - (jb4)
                                                                                         That's not a declaration of war. - (pwhysall) - (6)
                                                                                             But Peter, - (jbrabeck) - (4)
                                                                                                 Can someone please fork a new thread (or several)? -NT - (drewk) - (3)
                                                                                                     It'll probably die soon. - (Another Scott)
                                                                                                     Yeah darnit...FORK this thread! -NT - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                                                         Knifing it is too much work -NT - (Arkadiy)
                                                                                             Not in the traditional sense. - (Another Scott)
                                                             4/13/2004 Tom Toles (78 kB .gif) (new thread) - (Another Scott)
                                                             Yes, there are - those that *won't*, even though they *can*. - (CRConrad)
                                         Necroeqquiphilia can do that to a person. -NT - (altmann) - (2)
                                             Necroeqquiphilia; I'll have to remember that one ;-) -NT - (bbronson)
                                             ICLRPD (new thread) - (jb4)
                         and they STILL don't get it! - (jb4)

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