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Post #15,056
by boxley
10/24/01 9:51:42 PM
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New have you ever read transcripts or excerpts
from the Chicago 7 trial concerning the 68 Demo Convention protest march on one side and called Riot on the other. I would be interested in your views of that trial (not the Judge, he was a clown) but the arguments presented on both sides.
The incitement to violence must be strictly defined. If for example a 3rd party not a part of the original conversation, speech etc commits an act of violence based on what the 1st and second party were having discourse upon, are the first 2 parties liable? If of course one of the two discoursers commit violence the other party is liable under the conspiracy and accomplice laws already on the books. I like the way it is currently defined and would not consider too much of a change without at least 8 months or so of study.
thanx,
bill
tshirt front "born to die before I get old"
thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #15,103
by Another Scott
10/25/01 10:17:23 AM
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New No I haven't. They don't seem to be online.
[link|http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/1968/Rewind1968_DNC.html|ABC News], [link|http://www2.pbs.org/wgbh/p ges/ mex/1968/chic go1968.html|PBS's The American Experience] are supposed to have covered the events, but the links are dead. [link|http://www.pbs.org/newshour/convention96/retro/southern.html|PBS Newshour] is a story on the '68 Democratic Convention. Maybe Laidlaw or some place like that has them, but I haven't found the transcripts yet. (I don't really have time at the moment to dig through them either.)

I haven't read much of anything recently about the convention, but have picked up bits and pieces over the years. I think it's clear that Daley's cops went way overboard. I don't know the outcome of the trial nor much about the details.

I agree that there are problems in reasonable attempts to draw up anti-"incitement-to-violence" restrictions. I agree it needs more study. Perhaps we should table the second sentence of [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=14927|#12] for now. :-)

Cheers,
Scott.
Post #15,108
by boxley
10/25/01 10:40:29 AM
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New Found it!
[link|http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/Chicago7/chicago7.html|Chi 7]
read the sentencing statements, brought back a lot of memories.
thanx,
bill
proud to still be a Yippie
tshirt front "born to die before I get old"
thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #15,123
by Another Scott
10/25/01 1:31:18 PM
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New Thanks! Bookmarked. More when I get some time...
     The z.iwethey.org party... are you there BOXLEY? - (screamer) - (28) - Oct. 23, 2001, 04:36:34 PM EDT
         Heh.. food for thought - (Ashton) - Oct. 23, 2001, 07:02:00 PM EDT
         First we need a platform - (boxley) - (13) - Oct. 23, 2001, 09:27:29 PM EDT
             Some more planks. - (Ashton) - (12) - Oct. 23, 2001, 09:42:12 PM EDT
                 cant have 9 unless you replace the funding supplied - (boxley) - (11) - Oct. 23, 2001, 11:08:58 PM EDT
                     Another. - (Another Scott) - (10) - Oct. 24, 2001, 09:50:34 AM EDT
                         nope hits the first ammendment too hard for example - (boxley) - (9) - Oct. 24, 2001, 11:02:01 AM EDT
                             Speech in the US has restrictions. (Long) - (Another Scott) - (8) - Oct. 24, 2001, 12:42:46 PM EDT
                                 Get the quote right. - (wharris2) - (3) - Oct. 24, 2001, 04:51:42 PM EDT
                                     Sorry. That is indeed what I meant to say... -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 24, 2001, 05:06:36 PM EDT
                                         Slip of fingers? - (wharris2) - (1) - Oct. 24, 2001, 05:23:35 PM EDT
                                             Nah, just didn't go back... - (Another Scott) - Oct. 24, 2001, 05:29:02 PM EDT
                                 have you ever read transcripts or excerpts - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 24, 2001, 09:51:42 PM EDT
                                     No I haven't. They don't seem to be online. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 25, 2001, 10:17:23 AM EDT
                                         Found it! - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 25, 2001, 10:40:29 AM EDT
                                             Thanks! Bookmarked. More when I get some time... -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 25, 2001, 01:31:18 PM EDT
         Shoot. I thought you meant a PARTY. Cake and balloons :( -NT - (tseliot) - (11) - Oct. 24, 2001, 11:47:02 AM EDT
             That is July 4th at BP's house -NT - (boxley) - (10) - Oct. 24, 2001, 12:09:08 PM EDT
                 Yeah! Let's hold our convention then. - (Silverlock) - (9) - Oct. 24, 2001, 12:15:24 PM EDT
                     do they generally disagree? - (drewk) - Oct. 24, 2001, 03:53:22 PM EDT
                     Well.. since that's at Eastern Corporate-HQ territory - (Ashton) - (2) - Oct. 24, 2001, 04:12:32 PM EDT
                         Mr. Chairman, - (Ric Locke) - (1) - Oct. 24, 2001, 10:03:15 PM EDT
                             Mme. Chairman, per Roberta's Rules of Order - (Ashton) - Oct. 25, 2001, 02:38:16 AM EDT
                     Not a born in, cant run :) Ventura might be available? - (boxley) - Oct. 24, 2001, 09:54:04 PM EDT
                     Also we need to find out requirements on how to get on the - (boxley) - Oct. 24, 2001, 09:56:31 PM EDT
                     Typical... - (screamer) - (2) - Oct. 25, 2001, 04:36:32 PM EDT
                         the party on the left is now the party on the right - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 25, 2001, 09:44:11 PM EDT
                             Part of "Lifehouse" - (Another Scott) - Oct. 25, 2001, 10:35:42 PM EDT
         Might be one ready-made for us to usurp - (drewk) - Oct. 25, 2001, 02:46:11 AM EDT

Where's my tinfoil hat...?
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