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New Meant to address this too :)
You talk about a right to be here. We have NO rights here. We are guests. We are here because our host allows it. A few of us spend a lot of time and money allowing it to happen. I'm not one of them, so I have no claim to this bit of cyberspace other than the fact I'm an old-timer and hopefully I provide enough entertainment and information that people want to read my posts.


That's what I meant by a right to be here, Scott and the other admins and the host give us the right to be here as guests, and as long as we conduct ourselves in the proper ways, we can stay. But what I meant by that is that any member has just as much right to be here as any other member, whether they post often, sometimes or not at all, as long as they follow the rules.

Edit: Also I'm not sure what you mean about my political beliefs being based on faith, because my political beliefs have nothing to do with my religion. Do you want to explain what you meant? If not, that's ok, just curious. :)

Nightowl >8#

P.S. added "as guests" to line 2, and added comment about political beliefs.


"It is understanding that gives us an ability to have peace. When we understand the other fellow's viewpoint, and he understands ours, then we can sit down and work out our differences." Harry S. Truman

"Whenever you're in conflict with someone, there is one factor that can make the difference between damaging your relationship and deepening it. That factor is attitude." Timothy Bentley
Expand Edited by Nightowl Jan. 12, 2004, 01:28:56 AM EST
Collapse Edited by Nightowl Jan. 12, 2004, 01:57:24 AM EST
Meant to address this too :)
You talk about a right to be here. We have NO rights here. We are guests. We are here because our host allows it. A few of us spend a lot of time and money allowing it to happen. I'm not one of them, so I have no claim to this bit of cyberspace other than the fact I'm an old-timer and hopefully I provide enough entertainment and information that people want to read my posts.


That's what I meant by a right to be here, Scott and the other admins and the host give us the right to be here as guests, and as long as we conduct ourselves in the proper ways, we can stay. But what I meant by that is that any member has just as much right to be here as any other member, whether they post often, sometimes or not at all, as long as they follow the rules.

Nightowl >8#

P.S. added "as guests" to line 2.


"It is understanding that gives us an ability to have peace. When we understand the other fellow's viewpoint, and he understands ours, then we can sit down and work out our differences." Harry S. Truman

"Whenever you're in conflict with someone, there is one factor that can make the difference between damaging your relationship and deepening it. That factor is attitude." Timothy Bentley
New What is this "rights" stuff?
One is read, replied to or ignored: on the basis of CONTENT of posts. And while that content may vary from the ludicrous to the profound -if we're lucky- it's nonsense to speak of "a Right to be here", except in terms of its negative: on only a few occasions have we had to face the issue of expulsion. If someone proves to have little of interest to say, then there will eventually be few or no replies. Don't need no stinkin 'procedures' 99+% of the time. Call it benign anarchy.

While it's true that any script kiddie *might* drop in here - as occurred in Episode XVIII of an earlier Norm flameout.. when he invited over some brain dead Mac VS non-Mac VS {absence of intelligent thought #1} idiocy:

It was made clear that these children could NOT bring in their mondo-graphic sigs, inane balderdash - and play here.

There's consensus that - nobody wants to get into Throwing People Out.. unless and until they become a palpably disruptive irritant (and no: there is no algorithm for setting forth all the possible things that might mean).

As has been suggested in this thread - CONTENT [on SOME topic] is the common denominator of 'approval'. Also said, the original nucleus formed in the IW technical forum - mainly around 'IT' matters, but often with oblique refs to quite different things. Little interest in pop psych (I observe over the years) - to name just one obv topic that produces ZZZzzzzs. This is not "a support group" for any and all comers; accomodate the moods and wit of the participants or don't; whining earns eBay negative feedback.

Anything from aardvarks to Zoroaster can.. work; nobody can show someone else how "to Be 'Interesting'", y'know? Obviously, minute attention to "procedures" won't do it. (And as you've noticed, "psych / therapy" appears to be interesting only as an object of scorn.)


HTH
New I explained that.
It was simple, everyone has a "right" to join any public group on the net, as long as they play by the rules of whoever runs it.

I never even hinted I had a right to be a)liked, b) responded to c)read or d) not ignored.

Have a nice day Ashton.

Brenda


"It is understanding that gives us an ability to have peace. When we understand the other fellow's viewpoint, and he understands ours, then we can sit down and work out our differences." Harry S. Truman

"Whenever you're in conflict with someone, there is one factor that can make the difference between damaging your relationship and deepening it. That factor is attitude." Timothy Bentley
     Asking you all to be honest... - (Nightowl) - (54)
         Re: Asking you all to be honest... - (deSitter) - (1)
             You just don't listen. (new thread) - (Nightowl)
         Peers? - (broomberg) - (5)
             Re: Peers? - (Nightowl)
             Meant to address this too :) - (Nightowl) - (2)
                 What is this "rights" stuff? - (Ashton) - (1)
                     I explained that. - (Nightowl)
             About my postings here - (orion)
         My honest response - (ben_tilly) - (7)
             Re: My honest response - (Nightowl) - (6)
                 You reversed the meaning - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                     Re: You reversed the meaning - (Nightowl) - (4)
                         Oops, I'd left in the word "either" wrongly -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                             Huh? - (Nightowl) - (1)
                                 NFC about your car discussion - (ben_tilly)
                         Re: You reversed the meaning (new thread) - (deSitter)
         You want honest. - (bepatient) - (3)
             +1, Insightful -NT - (pwhysall)
             Point taken. - (Nightowl)
             Ditto! - (tuberculosis)
         I can honestly tell you - (orion) - (5)
             Also noted and understood. :) - (Nightowl) - (4)
                 Another point - (orion) - (3)
                     Take this to email - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                         Re: Take this to email - (Nightowl)
                         Thank you Ben for pointing that out. +5 for correct. -NT - (bepatient)
         It's just amazing . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
             I don't ever get clues. - (Nightowl) - (7)
                 OK - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                     Yep - (Nightowl) - (2)
                         And don't think for a moment that I don't know . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                             Believe what you want - (Nightowl)
                     We took it to another place - (orion)
                 That means you're too stupid to be here. HTH! -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                     Re: That means you're too stupid to be here. HTH! - (Nightowl)
         What you don't like about my posts so far... - (Nightowl) - (18)
             Extract head from /dev/ass - (pwhysall) - (8)
                 Noted. - (Nightowl) - (4)
                     I think the issue is - (jake123) - (1)
                         Thank you - (Nightowl)
                     Key words: "drop it". - (pwhysall) - (1)
                         Thank you! - (Nightowl)
                 Does "me" count, too? - (jb4) - (2)
                     Don't make /me come over there... -NT - (pwhysall)
                     *fwap* -NT - (bepatient)
             Look at that post for an example - (bepatient)
             On item 7, congratulations vs validation - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                 Much better, thanks! - (Nightowl) - (6)
                     Don't be so "midwest nice" - (jbrabeck) - (5)
                         One more thing to decide -- the issue of praying - (Nightowl) - (4)
                             Know who you are talking to before offering prayers - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                 Very good theoretical solution - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                     Here's what I'll do about the prayer issue - (Nightowl) - (1)
                                         And finally, closing this thread. - (Nightowl)

Quite another Theatre of operations.
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