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1/5/04 11:44:58 AM

Of course I have further advice to give

You are correct that the thread migrated to religion from elsewhere. My advice is that if you know that you are not interested in the topic, and if it migrates out of your sight, then leave it be.

On your scientific literacy, until you actually demonstrate some knowledge, I see no reason to assume that you have it.

Ben

"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]

Post #133,911

1/6/04 4:38:41 PM

You'd need to assume?

Ben goes on:

On your scientific literacy, until you actually demonstrate some knowledge, I see no reason to assume that you have it.

Huh?

I thought I'd done(*) that, here and in the other fora we've inhabited over the years. But, what the hey, either I've posted less than I thought, or you just didn't read it / forgot it.

Anywhichway, guess I'll have to live with that... Because I'm not about to write a High School essay on the process of science -- an eternal provisorium, from hypothesis to experiment, falsifiability and repeatability, yadda yadda yadda -- for you. I *could*, of course, but what the fuck would be the use? You'd never know if I wrote it from my own knowledge, or put it together from bits and pieces I found on the Internet. (Heck, I could probably get most of it from posts by you! :-)

So by all means, (be like a Creationist and :-) hang on to your misconceptions.

(*): Not to the level of a practicing scientist, of course, but as a (hopefully well-)informed layman; having taken the "Natural Sciences" curriculum in the Gymnasium (approx. "High School", for Yanks) and kept on reading stuff --popularisations, to be sure, but hopefully mainly reputable ones -- occasionally in my free time ever since.

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In other words (Ben is such a fucking wuss)... - (CRConrad) - (70) - Jan. 4, 2004, 05:20:28 PM EST

Learn some history, asshole - (ben_tilly) - (69) - Jan. 4, 2004, 06:14:38 PM EST

Ben is right - (deSitter) - Jan. 4, 2004, 06:32:41 PM EST

Learn to read, Fuck-face. - (CRConrad) - (27) - Jan. 4, 2004, 06:54:35 PM EST

Learn to read yourself - (ben_tilly) - (26) - Jan. 4, 2004, 07:35:11 PM EST

You learn first. - (CRConrad) - (25) - Jan. 4, 2004, 08:08:20 PM EST

Of course I have further advice to give - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Jan. 5, 2004, 11:44:58 AM EST

You'd need to assume? - (CRConrad) - Jan. 6, 2004, 04:38:41 PM EST

Thank you... I knew you weren't really completely a lamer - (danreck) - (22) - Jan. 5, 2004, 03:54:02 PM EST

On that side bet - (ben_tilly) - (19) - Jan. 5, 2004, 04:13:02 PM EST

Re: On that side bet - (danreck) - (18) - Jan. 5, 2004, 05:20:20 PM EST

Dumbass. - (admin) - (11) - Jan. 5, 2004, 05:24:17 PM EST

Ouch... - (danreck) - Jan. 6, 2004, 09:45:33 AM EST

Oh, and by the way... - (danreck) - (9) - Jan. 6, 2004, 09:54:35 AM EST

Re: Oh, and by the way... - (deSitter) - Jan. 6, 2004, 10:00:47 AM EST

Re: Oh, and by the way... - (admin) - (7) - Jan. 6, 2004, 10:38:11 AM EST

Old English UNIX - (deSitter) - (6) - Jan. 6, 2004, 10:52:15 AM EST

If yer gonna Old English, do it right, dufus - (jb4) - (5) - Jan. 6, 2004, 12:20:20 PM EST

That's not Old English, fuckwit. - (pwhysall) - (4) - Jan. 6, 2004, 12:35:56 PM EST

Dorkus Maximus... - (danreck) - Jan. 6, 2004, 02:14:58 PM EST

Ignorant? -NT - (folkert) - (1) - Jan. 6, 2004, 02:35:05 PM EST

I once ahad a coworker - (Arkadiy) - Jan. 6, 2004, 04:51:52 PM EST

And damn proud of it too, butthole! -NT - (jb4) - Jan. 6, 2004, 06:06:44 PM EST

Re: On that side bet - (deSitter) - Jan. 5, 2004, 05:49:36 PM EST

Who chooses the book? - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Jan. 6, 2004, 11:26:56 AM EST

Re: Who chooses the book? - (danreck) - (3) - Jan. 6, 2004, 03:43:19 PM EST

And *that* is a sucker bet - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Jan. 6, 2004, 05:25:32 PM EST

An apology from the FLAME FORUM? - (hnick) - Jan. 6, 2004, 05:49:28 PM EST

Fair enough... - (danreck) - Jan. 7, 2004, 09:48:12 AM EST

[Edit: Typo] Been going to say this for a while: - (CRConrad) - (1) - Jan. 6, 2004, 04:44:13 PM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (Silverlock) - Jan. 6, 2004, 04:51:54 PM EST

bah, what crap, creationism is correct - (boxley) - (39) - Jan. 4, 2004, 08:47:55 PM EST

Yes indeed - (orion) - (12) - Jan. 4, 2004, 09:25:41 PM EST

You might want to read this. - (Another Scott) - (9) - Jan. 4, 2004, 10:21:15 PM EST

FUD plain and simple -NT - (orion) - (8) - Jan. 7, 2004, 02:25:31 AM EST

This post left blank because there's nothing one can say. -NT - (CRConrad) - (6) - Jan. 7, 2004, 02:55:35 AM EST

Imagine that - (orion) - (5) - Jan. 7, 2004, 09:23:06 AM EST

By your fuckwittery, yes. -NT - (pwhysall) - (4) - Jan. 7, 2004, 09:23:40 AM EST

Just can't get over it can you - (orion) - (3) - Jan. 7, 2004, 09:30:35 AM EST

And also unlike Peter, you're just plain fucking STUPID. - (CRConrad) - (2) - Jan. 7, 2004, 09:49:43 AM EST

I don't have the time to waste combating fud. - (orion) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2004, 03:51:46 PM EST

That was an excerpt. Read the linked article for the proofs. -NT - (Another Scott) - Jan. 8, 2004, 03:58:39 PM EST

Facts, Understanding and Demonstration? Yup, it is. :-\ufffd -NT - (Another Scott) - Jan. 7, 2004, 09:43:41 PM EST

the accidental ape is not nescessarily in the design - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 5, 2004, 09:50:48 AM EST

Indeed - (orion) - Jan. 7, 2004, 02:23:54 AM EST

What a carefully thought out and informed position... -NT - (ben_tilly) - (25) - Jan. 5, 2004, 11:45:39 AM EST

yup - (boxley) - (24) - Jan. 5, 2004, 01:10:55 PM EST

Nice little gap in that reasoning - (ben_tilly) - (23) - Jan. 5, 2004, 01:54:59 PM EST

Eyes? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Jan. 5, 2004, 04:39:01 PM EST

No mystery there. - (admin) - (3) - Jan. 5, 2004, 04:43:27 PM EST

An honest question - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Jan. 5, 2004, 07:35:41 PM EST

Yes - (ben_tilly) - Jan. 6, 2004, 11:35:55 AM EST

Thanks. - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 6, 2004, 01:23:16 PM EST

ok lets start with a carbon based life form - (boxley) - (17) - Jan. 5, 2004, 09:09:27 PM EST

Chaos theory as misunderstood, you mean? - (ben_tilly) - (16) - Jan. 6, 2004, 11:46:40 AM EST

More non-sequiteurs - (jake123) - (2) - Jan. 6, 2004, 12:01:42 PM EST

Body piercings don't have this kind of torque, though. -NT - (admin) - Jan. 6, 2004, 12:03:06 PM EST

ICLRPD! (new thread) - (jb4) - Jan. 6, 2004, 12:23:50 PM EST

large phlem dripping from a donkeys ass - (boxley) - (12) - Jan. 6, 2004, 08:21:54 PM EST

I'll amend that statement - (ben_tilly) - (11) - Jan. 6, 2004, 10:10:06 PM EST

NON SEQUITUR - (admin) - (1) - Jan. 6, 2004, 10:02:32 PM EST

Sorry, boxley's spelin is werng off - (ben_tilly) - Jan. 6, 2004, 10:12:02 PM EST

Of course, you have met me, do I act at all reasonable? - (boxley) - (8) - Jan. 7, 2004, 08:32:19 PM EST

But, I see no mention of extinctions. - (a6l6e6x) - Jan. 7, 2004, 09:12:17 PM EST

I've met you and you act like you don't give a shit - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Jan. 8, 2004, 06:03:52 PM EST

good link pole shifts can and do explain a lot -NT - (boxley) - (5) - Jan. 8, 2004, 06:38:38 PM EST

Hey - You can't do THAT! - (broomberg) - (3) - Jan. 10, 2004, 04:52:29 PM EST

naw busy trying to find the link - (boxley) - (2) - Jan. 10, 2004, 08:32:36 PM EST

Dream on - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Jan. 10, 2004, 09:19:16 PM EST

a squint in yer eye - (boxley) - Jan. 10, 2004, 10:10:17 PM EST

Poleax shifts.. - (Ashton) - Jan. 11, 2004, 07:30:31 AM EST

They should name these things for their discoverers, like comets.
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