Well, I survived some of the worst...

Post #130,171 by Nightowl 12/11/03 1:06:53 AM Reply	Well, I survived some of the worst... And they were local too. I can handle Ross, I'll either respond when I feel the need, or ignore him when I feel the need. As I explained, what I couldn't handle was being considered insulting to him when all I was was highly wary of meeting with him in person after the way he's treated me here since day one. Trust me, he won't drive me off here. No one will drive me off here, because I've stood against those that tried their damnedest to drive me from a board, and failed. Nightowl >8# "The difference between being immature and child-like is that one is what you are, and one is what you choose to be." Comment by Nightowl {O,O}
Post #130,175 by rcareaga 12/11/03 1:24:21 AM Reply	(well, the FQ is a separate moral universe) A very large story, I do not doubt, here told with an admirable economy of words: I've stood against those that tried their damnedest to drive me from a board, and failed. Now, why ever would anyone try to do a thing like that?
Post #130,176 by Nightowl 12/11/03 1:26:07 AM Reply	Well... Now, why ever would anyone try to do a thing like that? Because they wanted my husband. Nightowl >8# "The difference between being immature and child-like is that one is what you are, and one is what you choose to be." Comment by Nightowl {O,O}
Post #130,199 by orion 12/11/03 7:50:06 AM Reply	Driving off a BBS well maybe for the same reasons that certain someones wanted to drive me off this board and also the Internet. :) Affinity was an adult BBS, you had to be 21 or older to get a working account. The SYSOP required a photocopy of your driver's license or state ID card proving your birthdate, I showed him my ID at a bowling event. The message board and chat rooms were filled with all kinds of things going on. People would try to manupulate you to get what they wanted. Sometimes they would tell a story about how their SO abused them, or maybe how lonley they were because they didn't have a SO. Sometimes they would make up stories and rumors about other users they didn't like. It was much like a Soap Opera. I was always too technical, the computer nerd that everyone asked for advice but couldn't stand the information overflow. :) I was know as Cable online. "Cable would you please stop rattling on about computers and get to the point?" Some would say. :) Owl's husband JohnF was very popular, and had an Ex that was on the BBS and she had friends who did what they could to torture Owl into leaving John and the BBS. It did not work, and Owl stayed with John. It was worse than the Usenet, because most of these people were local and you would met them at BBS Events. I bowled against many of my antagonists at bowling events, sometimes beating them and other times getting beaten. In bowling score of course, no fistfights broke out thank goodness. :) *"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"*
Post #130,213 by Silverlock 12/11/03 9:13:46 AM Reply	No one wanted to "drive you off" certain someones wanted to drive me off this board and also the Internet. :) We just wanted you to stop being an unutterably insufferable prick. We did, of course, want to drive off the multitude of false identities you created. ----------------------------------------- Democracy is not a spectator sport.
Post #130,261 by orion 12/11/03 11:01:39 AM Reply	It continued even after I dropped the alternate IDs. One member, who knows who he is and I won't mention his name, said that he wanted to drive people like me off of the Internet. So I took it as if the group-mind that he represented wanted to not only drive me off of the board, but also off of the Internet. "Unutterably insufferable prick"? I thought based on other members' comments that I was being: #1 An idiot #2 A wanker #3 A nincompoop/ninny Also I was told to think before I posted, a lot. That my posts had a high signal to noise ratio, emphensizing on the noise. Of course I may be just paraphrasing, if anyone wishes to correct me and give a more accurate description, please go right ahead. :) *"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"*
Post #130,299 by rcareaga 12/11/03 11:54:35 AM Reply	the sorrows of young norman One member, who knows who he is and I won't mention his name, said that he wanted to drive people like me off of the Internet That would be me, I believe, last July, although your memory, not surprisingly, is imprecise, since what I said was Such relentless stupidity as Norm routinely displays deserves to be driven offline. —in other words, if the shoe doesn't fit, don't let's see you walking on it. And I took it as if the group-mind that he represented wanted to not only drive me off of the board, but also off of the Internet It will come as news to the rest of the hive, as it certainly did to me, that I speak for all, but if that's the case I'm going to work next on ruling the world. idiot...wanker...nincompoop/ninny The list is far from exhaustive, but it's a sound start. All this being said, you are at least somewhat improved over the drooling lunatic who was littering the boards with multiple avatars at this time last year.
Post #130,302 by bepatient 12/11/03 11:58:42 AM Reply	Well...for anyone who knows... but if that's the case I'm going to work next on ruling the world. ...every Brain needs a Pinky. Thinking of the qualifications you 2 may end up paired again ;-) If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} It goes in, it must come out._{Teslacle's Deviant to Fudd's Law} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #130,434 by orion 12/12/03 1:14:11 AM Reply	Every Brain needs a Pinky If memory serves me right, Brain's plans alway backfired on him in some way. Always that random factor he never planned on. *"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"*
Post #130,320 by Another Scott 12/11/03 1:07:18 PM Reply	Rand for Tyrant in 2004! :-)
Post #130,433 by orion 12/12/03 1:10:28 AM Reply	Thanks, I think in recognizing that I have improved in over a year. Last year wasn't a good year for me. I may have paraphrased what you said a bit, based on what I remembered of it. I do recall some people seemed to agree with what you said. Don't try ruling the world just yet, the other people will ambitions will knock you down. *"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"*
Post #130,226 by Nightowl 12/11/03 9:54:53 AM Reply	Good explanation, Norman! Just a couple clarifications... Owl's husband JohnF was very popular, and had an Ex that was on the BBS and she had friends who did what they could to torture Owl into leaving John and the BBS. It did not work, and Owl stayed with John. John wasn't my husband at the time I was on Affinity for the most part, and his ex was an ex-girlfriend. It was worse than the Usenet, because most of these people were local and you would meet them at BBS Events. I bowled against many of my antagonists at bowling events, sometimes beating them and other times getting beaten. In bowling score of course, no fistfights broke out thank goodness. :) Exactly. This is why, in my opinion, it was worse than anything on a broadscale on the internet, because you actually SAW all these people at local events, and there was no way to prevent your worst enemies on the board from coming. And even though there were no fistfights, (probably because of the public nature of the events), there was a lot worse at times. Nightowl >8# "The difference between being immature and child-like is that one is what you are, and one is what you choose to be." Comment by Nightowl {O,O}
Post #130,179 by ben_tilly 12/11/03 1:41:53 AM Reply	Wrong scale I have never, and I mean never seen flaming on the web to match what was just background noise on Usenet. I have also noticed through the years that most of the effective flamers that I've seen on the web had years of exposure to Usenet. If you haven't seen it, then you have no idea what you are talking about. I understand that Usenet today is nothing like what I remember because the volume dropped as people went elsewhere after spam picked up and the web provided alternatives. My introduction to the net was in the mid-90's. One of my favorite groups was sci.math. At that point sci.math had an estimated 100,000 readers. Ever dealt with 100,000 people at once? Only a fraction would speak of course. But still have you ever tried following multiple parallel discussions in group with maybe a thousand active contributers? (The quoting style allowed, nay encouraged, technical conversation to branch out in multiple ways in one exchange of messages.) With most being damned competent, a few [link\|http://www.kibo.com/kibopost/abian1.html\|crazy], some [link\|http://www.archimedesplutonium.com/File1993_10.html\|VERY crazy]? The dynamics of a group with a few dozen or few hundred people is nothing in comparison. Cheers, Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #130,281 by boxley 12/11/03 11:30:14 AM Reply	that second link is to an idiot everyone knows that it is electromagnetic fields that have to be realigned around your brain's atoms, not the photons being aimed at the locus. thanx,' bill "We must face the fact that there is not a single country in the world that measures up to the lofty moral and social standards that are the hallmark of the U.S.A.: even Canada is delinquent and deserves a whiff of grape. There is not a single country in the world which, like the U.S., reeks of democracy and "human rights," and is free of crime and murder and hate thoughts and undemocratic deeds\ufffd. And so, since no other countries shape up to U.S. standards, \ufffd I make a Modest Proposal for the only possible consistent and coherent foreign policy: the U.S. must, very soon, Invade the Entire World!" Murray N. Rothbard questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #130,288 by deSitter 12/11/03 11:37:11 AM Reply	Re: that second link is to an idiot Hey, it worked for TVs! (In the days before auto-degaussing TVs, it mattered which way the set was aligned w.r.t to Earth's magnetic field.) -drl
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Post #130,206 by deSitter 12/11/03 8:32:21 AM Reply	Brace yourself men! It's another OWL shitstorm! The Cyber sister shrieks again! Fragile femme on the mouth-path! -drl
Post #130,214 by Arkadiy 12/11/03 9:18:07 AM Reply	[A]bort, [R]etry, [I]gnore? -- "There's nothing more nervous than a million dollars. It does not speak French, it does not speak English, it does not speak German and it moves very fast." -- Jean Chretien
Post #130,225 by deSitter 12/11/03 9:54:28 AM Reply	init 0 -drl
Post #130,228 by Nightowl 12/11/03 9:56:31 AM 12/11/03 10:26:42 AM Reply	Sorry DeSitter, you're wrong. You haven't ever even SEEN a real Owl shitstorm ONLINE. Nightowl >8# Edit: added ONLINE. "The difference between being immature and child-like is that one is what you are, and one is what you choose to be." Comment by Nightowl {O,O} Edited by Nightowl Dec. 11, 2003, 10:26:42 AM EST Expand All History
Post #130,238 by deSitter 12/11/03 10:24:23 AM Reply	Re: Sorry DeSitter, you're wrong. I assume this response to my harmless sarcasm is a threat, and since I live in the same city and am not "connected" as the natives are, I'm forced to take it seriously - the more so since I fully understand what hysterical women are capable of doing, particularly ones who are (by their own admission) mentally disturbed. I will leave it to the administrators to decide how to handle this matter. I cannot remain here under these conditions. -drl
Post #130,239 by Nightowl 12/11/03 10:26:17 AM 12/11/03 10:31:04 AM Reply	It was not a threat -- I edited it to say online I just meant that I haven't been angry enough to truly "flame" someone, and I would NEVER hurt anyone physically, and if you choose to believe that I'm sorry. I don't even know where you live, remember? I couldn't find you. And a lot iwetheyer's know where one another live and make comments like that whether in sarcasm or flippancy, or sometimes anger, and I can't see that as reason for anyone to be removed from the board or leave the board. Sheesh are you ever overreacting. You have been antagonizing me for days, trying to make me explode, and I've been doing my best not to do that, so you are the cause of the problem here, not me. I hope the administrators realize this because I know I've done nothing wrong. Nightowl >8# Edited: added a sentence in second paragraph. "The difference between being immature and child-like is that one is what you are, and one is what you choose to be." Comment by Nightowl {O,O} Edited by Nightowl Dec. 11, 2003, 10:27:29 AM EST Edited by Nightowl Dec. 11, 2003, 10:31:04 AM EST Expand All History
Post #130,245 by deSitter 12/11/03 10:32:39 AM Reply	Re: It was not a threat. Nevertheless, I feel threatened, particularly since "Nightowl" has manufactured the belief that I "want to meet her", which could not be more wrong. My instincts about such things are nearly perfect, and my alarms are all ringing. I leave it to the administrators to decide what is best - if that includes me leaving the group, then I can live with it. -drl
Post #130,248 by Nightowl 12/11/03 10:35:09 AM Reply	This is laughable.. I'll give Scott the police precinct number whom I called when I was trying to find you on the phone. He can speak to the officer who personally assisted me in my search for you, and was prepared to go "rescue" you from your apartment at a moment's notice. If that doesn't back my credibility, I don't know what would. Just let me alone, Ross. Nightowl >8# "The difference between being immature and child-like is that one is what you are, and one is what you choose to be." Comment by Nightowl {O,O}
Post #130,252 by deSitter 12/11/03 10:42:26 AM Reply	Re: This is laughable.. (new thread) Created as new thread #130251 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=130251\|Re: This is laughable..] -drl
Post #130,272 by Silverlock 12/11/03 11:17:29 AM Reply	Time to apply a clue by four Just let me alone, Ross. Maybe you could try, oh.. I don't know, not fucking responding to him? ----------------------------------------- Democracy is not a spectator sport.
Post #130,277 by Nightowl 12/11/03 11:23:35 AM 12/11/03 11:24:47 AM Reply	It works both ways And he's the one who has been blasting me (& John) in otherwise reasonable conversations, lately. Nightowl >8# Edit: added "& John" "The difference between being immature and child-like is that one is what you are, and one is what you choose to be." Comment by Nightowl {O,O} Edited by Nightowl Dec. 11, 2003, 11:24:47 AM EST Expand All History
Post #130,296 by bepatient 12/11/03 11:45:58 AM Reply	Is this the part.. ...where we hear the kids screaming... "But she started it?" "No I didn't. SHE started it." Be the adult. End it. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} It goes in, it must come out._{Teslacle's Deviant to Fudd's Law} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #130,275 by Nightowl 12/11/03 11:20:06 AM Reply	In case anybody is questioning why.... I believed a certain someone wanted to meet me in person on here.... Read this post. (Scott, please check this post for reference also). [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=126950\|http://z.iwethey.org...?contentid=126950] Thanks, I'm done with this subset of the current topic. Nightowl >8# "The difference between being immature and child-like is that one is what you are, and one is what you choose to be." Comment by Nightowl {O,O}
Post #130,286 by rcareaga 12/11/03 11:33:12 AM Reply	oh, come now... I see no reason to involve admin in this dustup when a simple restraining order would do the trick. cordially, Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #130,289 by rcareaga 12/11/03 11:37:40 AM Reply	inquiring minds guano know (but only in the FQ) what, exactly, constitutes a "real" online owline shitstorm? Can't be volume or frequency. Higher phosphorus content perhaps?
Post #130,292 by Nightowl 12/11/03 11:42:12 AM Reply	You don't really want to know, do you? It usually means I stop being "nice" and start "breathing fire." Nightowl >8# "The difference between being immature and child-like is that one is what you are, and one is what you choose to be." Comment by Nightowl {O,O}
Post #130,303 by rcareaga 12/11/03 12:03:53 PM Reply	"none shall pass" BLACK KNIGHT: Have at you! [kick] ARTHUR: Eh. You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine. BLACK KNIGHT: Oh, had enough, eh? ARTHUR: Look, you stupid bastard. You've got no arms left. BLACK KNIGHT: Yes, I have. ARTHUR: Look! BLACK KNIGHT: Just a flesh wound. [kick] ARTHUR: Look, stop that. BLACK KNIGHT: Chicken! [kick] Chickennn! ARTHUR: Look, I'll have your leg. [kick] Right! [whop] [ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's right leg off] BLACK KNIGHT: Right. I'll do you for that! ARTHUR: You'll what? BLACK KNIGHT: Come here! ARTHUR: What are you going to do, bleed on me? BLACK KNIGHT: I'm invincible! ARTHUR: You're a looney. Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #130,378 by Nightowl 12/11/03 5:46:32 PM Reply	I love that! Monty Python is awesome! Nightowl >8# "The difference between being immature and child-like is that one is what you are, and one is what you choose to be." Comment by Nightowl {O,O}
Post #130,437 by CRConrad 12/12/03 2:16:02 AM 12/12/03 2:17:53 AM Reply	Shuh-WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH !!! [Edit: Took out a few 'O's, to cut down on right-shift.] Edited by CRConrad Dec. 12, 2003, 02:17:53 AM EST Expand All History
Post #130,455 by rcareaga 12/12/03 10:15:50 AM Reply	yes, it is well that the owl flies low since much of the traffic here goes by dangerously fast overhead. cordially, Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #130,458 by folkert 12/12/03 10:28:13 AM Reply	I believe... Those are flies up there. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey*
Post #130,293 by deSitter 12/11/03 11:42:31 AM Reply	Re: inquiring minds guano know You should know, Uncle G, that it is possible to rachet up the gamma of a graphics chip to the point that your screen becomes a white fuzzy glow and begins to attract metal objects - (well, the latter only works on cheap Korean monitors...) -drl

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