Guns became problematic quite a while ago . .

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Post #120,774 by Andrew Grygus 10/10/03 11:18:24 AM Reply	Guns became problematic quite a while ago . . . . for air to air combat. I think an F104 was the first fighter to shoot itself down by forgetting where it's fire stream would be a few seconds later. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #120,820 by Ashton 10/10/03 3:43:19 PM Reply	"Travelling at the speed of light with the headlights on":-\ufffd

What's the world's fastest fighter plane? - (deSitter) - (16) - Oct. 8, 2003, 10:19:03 PM EDT

Fastest fighter plane my ass. - (Andrew Grygus) - (15) - Oct. 8, 2003, 11:32:11 PM EDT

!! never heard of that! - (deSitter) - (5) - Oct. 9, 2003, 12:57:25 AM EDT

You didn't hear about it for good reason. - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - Oct. 9, 2003, 08:09:54 AM EDT

A12 - (dlevitt) - (3) - Oct. 10, 2003, 10:13:07 AM EDT

Well, the Blackbird group claims an A12 also . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Oct. 10, 2003, 11:12:57 AM EDT

Re: Well, the Blackbird group claims an A12 also . . - (Nightowl) - (1) - Oct. 10, 2003, 11:14:14 AM EDT

FOUND IT! - (Nightowl) - Oct. 10, 2003, 11:24:01 AM EDT

Re: Fastest fighter plane my ass. - (Nightowl) - (2) - Oct. 9, 2003, 10:41:35 AM EDT

A12 and B12 were other versions of the 'Blackbird' line. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Oct. 9, 2003, 11:26:13 AM EDT

Re: A12 and B12 were other versions of the 'Blackbird' line. - (Nightowl) - Oct. 9, 2003, 11:51:47 AM EDT

Re: Fastest fighter plane my ass. - (lincoln) - (5) - Oct. 9, 2003, 12:44:06 PM EDT

I doubt any weaponry but missiles . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Oct. 9, 2003, 02:45:13 PM EDT

I go with andy on this 1 - even Raptor is out gunned by that - (dmarker) - (2) - Oct. 10, 2003, 08:43:44 AM EDT

Guns became problematic quite a while ago . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Oct. 10, 2003, 11:18:24 AM EDT

"Travelling at the speed of light with the headlights on":-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 10, 2003, 03:43:19 PM EDT

YF12 details - Link - (dlevitt) - Oct. 10, 2003, 10:17:26 AM EDT

Hard science if ever there was.
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