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New Ignores the fact yerself.
I already pointed out above that we offered them security and they turned us down.

Or is your position that we should have forced it upon them? `Coz if you're gonna take that position, you have no right to complain when we force our security on others in the future. In other words, you've just argued for a more aggressive form of American hegemony.

You really should learn to read for comprehension.
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DEAL WITH IT.
"I do not want to be admired by scumbags and liars and wife beaters. I want to be admired by good and decent, intelligent and just people, and in order to achieve this I need to do things that make me despised by their opposites." - Bill Whittle
Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas?
[link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
New No, not the point at all
The US are the cops in Iraq, end of story.

The fact that snipings, bombings, and sabotage continue is because you're not doing your job. That's not to say you aren't trying, but you're definitely not succeeding.

Offering security for a particular site has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Then again, you probably knew that, but chose to ignore it.

And finally, fulfilling your responsibilities as an occupying power under the geneva convention has absolutely nothing do to with "a more aggressive form of American hegemony". That's what's called a strawman. You should learn to read for comprehension yourself. While you're at it, you might want to consider looking up the responsibilities of occupying powers under the geneva conventions.
--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton                            jake at consultron.ca *\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca]                   [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\n* Kingston Ontario Canada               [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
New Your point is specious, and you know better. Shame.
[link|http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/004154.php|Once again, since you conveniently forget]

Excerpt:

At the beginning of the Iraq War, an accidental helipcopter crash killed several American soldiers. A general said about the accident: "What we do is dangerous. Even in peacetime." Indeed, year in and year out, an average of one to two American soldiers die every day, during peacetime, as a result of accidents. This casualty rate has never attracted any public attention. Accidental deaths in peacetime never make headlines, notwithstanding their relative frequency.

There have been 53 combat deaths in Iraq in the 90-plus days since May 1--roughly one every other day, about half the Army's accidental death rate during peacetime. Yet every one of these deaths has been front-page news. Why?

Not because of the strategic significance of this casualty rate, which is zero--just as the roughly equal rate of accidental deaths of troops in Iraq has no impact on the strategic situation there. And not because such an intense focus on near-zero casualty rates is a standard staple of war reporting. Past wars have, needless to say, generated vastly greater casualty rates. At the height of the Vietnam war, to which liberals longingly compare Iraq, an average of 40 American servicemen died each day--75 times the current rate in Iraq--and fatalities in World Wars I and II were far greater still. Yet in none of these conflicts was each casualty considered front-page news.
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DEAL WITH IT.
"I do not want to be admired by scumbags and liars and wife beaters. I want to be admired by good and decent, intelligent and just people, and in order to achieve this I need to do things that make me despised by their opposites." - Bill Whittle
Never mind all the mass graves. Where's the nerve gas?
[link|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
New What does that have to do with what I said?
--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton                            jake at consultron.ca *\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca]                   [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\n* Kingston Ontario Canada               [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
     VOA: UN out of Iraq! - (marlowe) - (6)
         Ignores the fact - (jake123) - (4)
             Ignores the fact yerself. - (marlowe) - (3)
                 No, not the point at all - (jake123) - (2)
                     Your point is specious, and you know better. Shame. - (marlowe) - (1)
                         What does that have to do with what I said? -NT - (jake123)
         Re: VOA: UN out of Iraq! - (GBert)

Major Allison Digby Tatham-Warter was so absurdly British that you can't even read his name without being compelled to brew a cup of tea.
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