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Post #118,442
by jake123
9/22/03 12:35:04 PM
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New Doesn't mean it will be
In fact, I'd hazard a guess that it will be closed, judging from past performance.
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Post #118,445
by jbrabeck
9/22/03 1:29:57 PM
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New Military Court Martial
Army Capt. James Yee was taken into custody by U.S. military authorities September 10 at the naval air station in Jacksonville, Florida, while in possession of classified documents "that a chaplain shouldn't have," an official told CNN, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
He's military in the military system. Surprising that it received ANY coverage. Trial? Open? No way.
Post #118,446
by jake123
9/22/03 1:36:41 PM
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New Fertile ground for speculation
in particular, why did someone in the military leak it?

The answer to the question of why they wanted to remain anonymous is, of course, pretty easy to surmise with a very reasonable expectation of accuracy. However, as to why... it seems that there may be parts of the military hierarchy that are beginning to have trouble squaring what's happening at gitmo with their avowed duty to defend the US constitution.

IOW, the question is... was Cpt. Yee going to sell the information, or leak it? For some people (both within the military and in their civilian overmasters), both would be extreme crimes against their self-interest... but perhaps only one is actually a crime against the United States.
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Post #118,472
by Ashton
9/22/03 6:09:32 PM
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New Every repressive regime requires a Bonhoeffer to appear
[link|http://www.pbs.org/opb/bonhoeffer/|Bonhoeffer].

Whether or not this man had those sentiments, I doubt that we'll find out for some time - if ever. (They may shoot the sucker.) As this Regime becomes ever more wobbly and frantically seeks ever more deceptive means of locking-in a Second-term by apparent "election" this time (he who owns the machines and Reads Them) -- I don't think I could imagine the next likely orchestrated Fear-events as certainly shall 'happen'.

Who's left to sorta-trust? - when : Powell has now decisively lost that original patina of Respectability. All the rest are PNAC.

To me it seems a lot like watching a shoe ..dropping.. nanosecond by nanosecond, as everyone waits for (to see if there Will be?) that "election". All the rest is just daily choreography to keep the adrenaline at a sufficient level as to preclude any long periods of thoughtfulness about, what already We Have Become. It's essential that the current inane level of sloganeering be actively encouraged, lest analysis and debate actually begin to occur, beyond the usual and obscure pockets as no media would cover.

(At least.. we haven't enough troops left (or trainable quickly enough) to march-for-effect into Iran.)


Ashton
     Is this a '5th Column' found within US Army ? - (dmarker) - (37) - Sept. 21, 2003, 03:46:08 AM EDT
         If so, not the first one. - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Sept. 21, 2003, 10:23:14 PM EDT
             and Hansen? Or do mormons get a free pass? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2003, 07:51:59 AM EDT
                 Hansen was FBI, not military. - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 22, 2003, 11:58:04 AM EDT
         Hard to say from what I have seen - (JayMehaffey) - (9) - Sept. 21, 2003, 11:23:58 PM EDT
             Amen to that sentiment. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (7) - Sept. 22, 2003, 11:58:40 AM EDT
                 Big question - (jake123) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2003, 12:02:47 PM EDT
                     The process needs to be open. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2003, 12:30:05 PM EDT
                         Doesn't mean it will be - (jake123) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2003, 12:35:04 PM EDT
                             Military Court Martial - (jbrabeck) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2003, 01:29:57 PM EDT
                                 Fertile ground for speculation - (jake123) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2003, 01:36:41 PM EDT
                                     Every repressive regime requires a Bonhoeffer to appear - (Ashton) - Sept. 22, 2003, 06:09:32 PM EDT
                     Trial? What makes you think we still do that? -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 23, 2003, 10:00:10 AM EDT
             dreyfus case? -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 22, 2003, 11:00:19 PM EDT
         Another Airman charged as spy for Syria - (JayMehaffey) - Sept. 23, 2003, 11:41:11 PM EDT
         Third Gitmo related arrest - (JayMehaffey) - (22) - Sept. 30, 2003, 03:59:12 PM EDT
             This is America. - (mmoffitt) - (19) - Sept. 30, 2003, 04:03:34 PM EDT
                 Hey...wait... - (bepatient) - (18) - Sept. 30, 2003, 04:14:00 PM EDT
                     You might want to run that by... - (mmoffitt) - (8) - Sept. 30, 2003, 04:32:53 PM EDT
                         Huh? - (bepatient) - (7) - Sept. 30, 2003, 05:42:22 PM EDT
                             You'd be amazed... - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Oct. 1, 2003, 01:31:30 PM EDT
                                 Re: You'd be amazed... - (bepatient) - (5) - Oct. 1, 2003, 01:56:43 PM EDT
                                     ? - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Oct. 2, 2003, 12:00:44 PM EDT
                                         Not quite... - (bepatient) - (3) - Oct. 2, 2003, 01:45:08 PM EDT
                                             It is the people's air - (jake123) - (2) - Oct. 2, 2003, 02:41:53 PM EDT
                                                 But would I not... - (bepatient) - (1) - Oct. 2, 2003, 03:29:18 PM EDT
                                                     Not Xactly. - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 2, 2003, 04:22:24 PM EDT
                     Not a Cessna; an ultralight instead - (bbronson) - (8) - Sept. 30, 2003, 04:34:18 PM EDT
                         Amen. And, btw, ... - (mmoffitt) - (7) - Oct. 1, 2003, 01:32:25 PM EDT
                             Birds don't have nosewheels, either, so... - (bbronson) - (6) - Oct. 2, 2003, 11:50:35 AM EDT
                                 Man, I almost envy you. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Oct. 2, 2003, 12:02:34 PM EDT
                                     No cross countries yet - (bbronson) - (4) - Oct. 2, 2003, 12:42:05 PM EDT
                                         If it isn't 50 nm, it isn't. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Oct. 2, 2003, 04:26:30 PM EDT
                                             It's 70 nm from KUES to KMTW - (bbronson) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2003, 10:20:02 AM EDT
                                                 Cool. Have fun. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2003, 04:21:42 PM EDT
                                                     Thanks. Already had airnav bookmarked! Great site - (bbronson) - Oct. 3, 2003, 05:16:21 PM EDT
             Re: Third Gitmo related arrest - (deSitter) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2003, 04:19:43 PM EDT
                 You may also recall that the identities of the prisoners is - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 30, 2003, 10:06:28 PM EDT 

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