Organized religion = the dismal science of death

Post #117,728 by deSitter 9/13/03 2:59:59 PM Reply	Organized religion = the dismal science of death The economics of collecting souls by wiping out life. The insanity of a hubris that claims to know the Ultimate Answers. Everyone is guilty - including you. As Bronowski said, holding his hand in the human-ash-laden mud of Auschwitz, commenting on the claim that "science turns people into numbers" - "This is where people were turned into numbers." And in the one of history's most stark ironies, that little, wretched state over there, propped up by our billions, has perfected turning people into numbers - of making a science of hate and death, just as their tormentors did. Absolute certainty = absolute death - total absence of living. That is religion - the occult science of death. A path for cowards and monsters. I'm sick of Jews, I'm sick of Muslims, I'm sick of wretchedness. They deserve what they get. Let them all fight over the last scrap, let them grovel in the dust of the world they destroyed. -drl
Post #117,730 by bluke 9/13/03 4:05:38 PM Reply	And what does this have to do with Clark's fitness ... to be President. The man clearly has no idea about the history of the US or of the ideals that it was founded on.
Post #117,754 by deSitter 9/14/03 12:13:01 AM Reply	Re: And what does this have to do with Clark's fitness ... Who the HELL are you to talk about "the ideals of the US"? If you ever lived here, you were no doubt a sorry, coddled Yankee son-of-a-bitch - nothing else could explain the continuous whining and rationalizations that approach Marlovian heights for stupidity, arrogance, and blindness. -drl
Post #117,767 by bluke 9/14/03 3:13:15 AM Reply	Actually I was born in the US ... and lived there until the age of 30. I don't know why I bother responding to your infantile rants, they are so void of content they don't even deserve a response.
Post #117,732 by Ashton 9/13/03 4:34:17 PM Reply	The easiest dismissal of this rant is the std. knee-jerk, "best take some meds, there.." {cackle. cackle.} and get back to "normal". Nervous titters. Only a few within the religio-game ever dare to look on this scale of long-term cause/effect - like one Fr. Miller MB Sale, of my acquaintance. No longer amongst us. He was banished to an obscure little church in SF - for pointing out (in and around Sacramento CA) the hypocrisy re the Giant California Water Scam(s) of the '30s on. Of 'Church' relevance? Only for the massive dissembling pointed out -- and the equally massively compounded effects upon all citizens (including The Flock). Made waves. Baaad Fr. Sale. So, yer a Loony, Ross. Welcome to our small {but growing ??} little club of iconoclasts of all stripes, nationalities, geographic locale. It's always a small percentage who ultimately sway the bone-lazy mass, so Who Knows? Maybe in the Largest scheme - Megadeth (is that a group?) groks to fullness what Siva was chuckling about: Illusion - we Love it. We Live it! :-\ufffd Fundamentalism - the pukka Enemy of all Authentic Life - via the individual Ego-conceit of those who elevate a comfy personalized-'God'-thingy over even.. [What?] Over ..that minimal level of earnest cooperation essential to halting the Death March of this deranged species? --> towards nuclear mass suicide of most moving things (the insects are highly radiation resistant - they will prevail). Jews/Arabs. Xians? (there are so many flavours, none of these have the slightest Idea what any of the others will Kill For - so stick with the local tribe! It's safest.) Muslims? inflected and infected with the Violence; disappointed to have so fewer new toys .. It's all so like 24/7 Murican 'entertainment' - inherent within the visceral Western-style Onward Xian Soldiers mantra playlist. Now indistinguishable: All joined into that Death March. It's a Parade! with jugglers and clowns to keep it orderly. And Fun. Above all it Must be entertaining! ..but you can separate from the emotional impact of living amid lemmings of the really unLovely Stupid sub-species. A few decent ales, some Bach and - Beauty returns! (It never left, actually.. y'know?) It isn't supposed to Make Sense, idiot. Nullo .. .. you know, I Who Be
Post #117,735 by boxley 9/13/03 6:33:49 PM Reply	heh, you took my remarks at face value Religion is how sorry little pathetic excuses for mammals wonder when they are standing in a lake od selfmade shit. It makes the their existance seem greater than it is. A collection of snot encased in a sphincter that is rather badly designed to do anything useful. thnx, bill "You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #117,752 by deSitter 9/13/03 11:57:23 PM 9/14/03 12:01:37 AM Reply	How could I not? You are one of my favorite people. You are a Jew. But I am heartily sick of them, at least in their State-ful incarnation. Oh how I would welcome a Spinoza, an Einstein, or even a Disraeli. But they are all gone, shadowed by the monstrous demagogues who pervert their once honorable society. And I would welcome an Al-Kwahrizmi, or even a wise Saladin - but all we have is Attas and Arafats. I am suffering so much for the people of 9/11, who shouted out to me beforehand in a twist of Time, a living proof of the Real Mystery that they are all missing in their attempts to anchor God to a bloody stone. (yes, that is apt - Prometheus Inverted - Man picking like a harpy at the liver of God) -drl Edited by deSitter Sept. 14, 2003, 12:01:37 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #117,763 by boxley 9/14/03 1:35:44 AM Reply	dont blame the jews for Israel personalities aside, Its a horrible place to bring up kids, the beer is lousy, food okay and the broads are great but you and I choose NOT to live there. My only gripe is that only in Israel can Jews decide the fate of other jews. Everywhere else it is the"host" country that decides wether we live or die depending on whim. I think the situation on the ground is rediculous but since I dont have to live there I dont really get too pissed off unless I see too many people snivelling about how homicide bombing is all Israel's fault. If he PA wants a state in the 67 borders it could be done in less than a year. thanx, bill "You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

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