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Post #11,436 by admin 10/3/01 10:16:32 AM Reply	United States of Europe? Note that this is a quick butt-in -- I'm more interested in how you and Gerald get on in this conversation. ;-) Anyway, like the French will ever go for a USofE. They're totally paranoid about cultural contamination as it is. Regards, -scott anderson
Post #11,462 by CRConrad 10/3/01 12:17:36 PM Reply	Dunno, but I think it's at least not quite impossible Scott writes: I'm more interested in how you and Gerald get on in this conversation. ;-) I wonder... I'm pretty proud I cooled down and didn't rapid-fire off the first reply that came to mind. (Still, if it's a flamewar he wants, I'll humour him at least to some extent.) Anyway, like the French will ever go for a USofE. They're totally paranoid about cultural contamination as it is. Yeah, but that's mainly cultural contamination from you uncouth colonials, it seems; I don't think European culture scares them as much -- perhaps mainly because they trend to see it as an extension of their own. So I think they see themselves as so much "primus inter pares" that they might still go for this; that they see a possible "Etats-Unies d'Europe" not as 'France, attached to Europe' but as 'Europe, attached to France'. (Only later vill ve tell tzem vhat 'die Vereinigten Staaten Europas' vill mean in terms off vho is really running tze shovv...) Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
Post #11,476 by wharris2 10/3/01 12:49:37 PM Reply	The French? They've got a huge case of the been-blown-to-bits-twice and had-to-be-rescued-by-the-US twice goos. I sorta wish nowdays that we'd kept our neutrality in World War 1. Germany might have carved off some of France (if they'd won) or France might have carved off some of Germany (if France/England had won) but at least they wouldn't have had this massive inferiority complex. Who knows how empty the sky is In the place of a fallen tower. Who knows how quiet it is in the home Where a son has not returned. -- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
Post #11,478 by boxley 10/3/01 12:53:09 PM Reply	More like the United kindoms of Greater Briton :) why did god give us a talleywhacker and a trigger finger if he didnt want us to use them? Randy Wayne White

Roots Of Rage: U.S. policy mixed with Islamic triumphalism? - (brettj) - (46) - Sept. 28, 2001, 08:41:07 AM EDT

The alternatives to meddling. - (marlowe) - Sept. 28, 2001, 01:06:22 PM EDT

Re: Roots Of Rage: U.S. policy mixed with Islamic triumphali - (gtall) - (44) - Sept. 28, 2001, 01:14:01 PM EDT

'73 oil embargo.. Ah yes, I remember it well. - (Ashton) - (1) - Sept. 28, 2001, 06:07:55 PM EDT

Re: '73 oil embargo.. Ah yes, I remember it well. - (Steve Lowe) - Oct. 1, 2001, 11:26:29 AM EDT

Good Intentions != Good Perceptions - (tablizer) - (41) - Sept. 28, 2001, 07:40:15 PM EDT

However... - (a6l6e6x) - (31) - Sept. 28, 2001, 08:05:20 PM EDT

oil and water? - (tablizer) - (2) - Sept. 28, 2001, 09:08:28 PM EDT

Well, we've got our problems here in the US. - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2001, 04:27:37 PM EDT

Thou sayest.. - (Ashton) - Sept. 28, 2001, 09:52:25 PM EDT

Re: However... - (gtall) - (27) - Sept. 29, 2001, 09:25:25 AM EDT

IIRC Mahatir binM was interviewed on PBS some years back - (Ashton) - (11) - Sept. 29, 2001, 02:17:54 PM EDT

Re: IIRC Mahatir binM was interviewed on PBS some years back - (gtall) - (10) - Sept. 29, 2001, 07:44:36 PM EDT

Re: I concur with your picture of Indonesia & Malaysia - (dmarker2) - Sept. 30, 2001, 12:09:18 AM EDT

Concur with the ideas - (Ashton) - Sept. 30, 2001, 03:37:03 AM EDT

Question about your interpretation of religion. - (brettj) - (7) - Sept. 30, 2001, 04:08:51 PM EDT

Logic obviously tellls us... - (CRConrad) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2001, 05:39:03 PM EDT

I took your bait once ... - (brettj) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2001, 05:41:32 PM EDT

If you *could* "take my bait", I'd have to throw you back... - (CRConrad) - Sept. 30, 2001, 05:51:52 PM EDT

I would say no more than 40% of Americans are losers. - (marlowe) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2001, 05:56:08 PM EDT

How DARE you criticize... - (CRConrad) - Oct. 1, 2001, 06:19:21 PM EDT

Re: Question about your interpretation of religion. - (gtall) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2001, 07:56:49 AM EDT

Thanks for the polite response. - (brettj) - Oct. 1, 2001, 10:49:18 AM EDT

Sure, as soon as you make Taiwan a State. What, ain't gonna? - (CRConrad) - (14) - Sept. 30, 2001, 05:36:30 PM EDT

A piece of Turkey is in Europe, CRC. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2001, 08:38:22 PM EDT

Yeah, I know, the bit around Mikkelgarth[*]. And I'm sure... - (CRConrad) - Oct. 1, 2001, 09:10:45 AM EDT

Well, I don't know 'zactly what Hawaii is . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2001, 11:21:02 PM EDT

It's an archipelago. HTH! :-) -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2001, 09:04:12 AM EDT

That's pronounced, "archipelago". HTH! :-) -NT - (tseliot) - Oct. 1, 2001, 12:37:48 PM EDT

Re: Sure, as soon as you make Taiwan a State. What, ain't go - (gtall) - (8) - Oct. 1, 2001, 10:16:30 AM EDT

I don't think you quite understand the issues here. - (CRConrad) - (7) - Oct. 1, 2001, 11:33:05 AM EDT

Arnt you folks overrun by turks as it is? - (boxley) - Oct. 1, 2001, 12:09:33 PM EDT

Re: I don't think you quite understand the issues here. - (gtall) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2001, 07:47:32 AM EDT

mfff, snort, ROFL! this could get good. -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 3, 2001, 10:09:57 AM EDT

United States of Europe? - (admin) - (3) - Oct. 3, 2001, 10:16:32 AM EDT

Dunno, but I think it's at least not quite impossible - (CRConrad) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2001, 12:17:36 PM EDT

The French? - (wharris2) - Oct. 3, 2001, 12:49:37 PM EDT

More like the United kindoms of Greater Briton :) -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 3, 2001, 12:53:09 PM EDT

Re: Good Intentions != Good Perceptions - (wharris2) - (8) - Sept. 29, 2001, 09:51:47 AM EDT

You are too kind. - (Ashton) - (7) - Sept. 29, 2001, 02:24:42 PM EDT

Please get your masses right. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Sept. 29, 2001, 05:01:36 PM EDT

Re: Please get your masses right. - (Ashton) - (5) - Sept. 29, 2001, 06:43:53 PM EDT

Your missing something Ash. - (Silverlock) - (4) - Oct. 1, 2001, 09:40:46 AM EDT

So are you and, above all, they. Here's the fallacy: - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2001, 09:56:50 AM EDT

Well, ..... of course. - (Silverlock) - Oct. 1, 2001, 10:19:11 AM EDT

Not missing it, nor do I argue with that narrow thesis - (Ashton) - Oct. 3, 2001, 04:35:25 PM EDT

SUV Safety - (pwhysall) - Oct. 3, 2001, 04:41:33 PM EDT

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