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New File name extensions
Isn't Longhorn going to address that? Maybe they will borrow the file format model from MacOS? Data Fork and Resource Fork, IIRC. Resource Fork telling it what program it is associated with, etc.



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New It might, but...
It might, but it will still have to to deal with files going in and out of the system to other non-Longhorn computers (or maybe it just won't. Could be fun). This of course what holds back advancement in this area for all platforms (and is why Apple has pretty much abandoned type and creator codes on MacOS X much to the consternation of many long-time developers).

BeOS had a nice system where incoming files would be checked for magic bytes indicating the file type and falling back onto extensions. It would then store the MIME (like email attachments) file type in a file attribute (BFS has indexed file attributes). NTFS has file attributes (or are they just those alternate file streams?) and I'm sure whatever WinFS adds onto NTFS would be capable of storing this. We shall see.

IIRC the Linux desktop file managers work similarly to BeOS but just check the file type or extension on every opening as they have nowhere convenient (ie: LCD) to store the MIME type.

XFS supports attributes (but not indexed). I have a design for a "just enough to show how nice it could be, and ignore the tricky legacy/interoperability problems" level Linux desktop shell using XFS, LUFS (a Linux file system kernel module that forwards all of its calls to a user mode shared library via Unix Domain Sockets), Python and Qt percolating in my head. We'll see if any of it ever makes it to "actual code".

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Chris Altmann
New Longhorn and other systems
Longhorn stores everything into a database, the database is the file system!

Not sure how to export the files to other systems, some sort of legacy support for older file systems will need to be added to write to DOS floppy disks, ISO/Joilet CD-ROMS, etc. Maybe then it is back to the file extensions again, groan!



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New All file systems are databases.
The only question is the language (primitives) that are used to access the file system and how the files are indexed. There's also the question of whether the database is relational.
New It's magic
\r\nIIRC the Linux desktop file managers work similarly to BeOS but just check the file type or extension on every opening as they have nowhere convenient (ie: LCD) to store the MIME type.\r\n
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/etc/mime-magic

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What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n
[link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n
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New Yep. That's it
A file listing which magic bytes within a file indicate the likely file type Those magic bytes are then mapped to a mime type. the file command uses a similar (the same?) database.

I suppose it isn't all that different to just check the magic whenever the user opens a file but I have had at least one occasion where I wanted to change the mime type of a particular file that Nautilus (the Gnome file manager) didn't guess right. With BeOS's scheme, the magic check is only done when there isn't a mime type attribute already associated with the file. Once that attribute is created you can tweak it if you wish. And I was mistaken. BeOS checks the extension first, then the magic byte signature.

According to the Nautilus user manual (I don't have a working Gnome here to verify), you can assign primary and secondary actions to either a general mime type or to a particular file. I don't know why I missed this in my case. The UI for such things in Gnome is rather bad at the moment.


OT PS: The is the wrong mime magic: [link|http://www.annamime.com/wow.html|http://www.annamime.com/wow.html]
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Chris Altmann
     Fun with .com and Acrobat Distiller - (altmann) - (6)
         File name extensions - (orion) - (5)
             It might, but... - (altmann) - (4)
                 Longhorn and other systems - (orion) - (1)
                     All file systems are databases. - (ChrisR)
                 It's magic - (kmself) - (1)
                     Yep. That's it - (altmann)

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