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New So are you and, above all, they. Here's the fallacy:
GreyStreak tries to be silver-tongued:
These vehicles can withstand much more damage than passenger cars and the occupants are less likely to be injured in the event of collision.
These vehicles can also cause much more damage than passenger cars, and the occupants of the other vehicle (not to mention pedestrians) are much more likely to be injured in the event of collision with such a behemoth, than with a regular car.


Many people are making a reasoned, thought out choice to protect their loved ones with the most massive (and therefore the most protective of passengers) vehicle they can afford.
So, is their choice to, in the event of a collision, kill and maim others much more efectively than they could with an ordinary car also "a reasoned, thought out" decision (which would make it the moral equivalent of murder in the first degree), or
just sheer devil-may-care thoughtlessness (murder in the second degree, or if you're lucky, manslaughter)?

Either way, it's awfully egocentric, isn't it?


For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution;
and it is always wrong
H. L. Mencken, Mencken's Metalaw
How apropos... Albeit perhaps not in the way you thought.
   Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
New Well, ..... of course.
But I don't see how how you can consider it a "fallacy". Where is the flaw in the logic of "I want my family safe. In a collision, the occupants of the larger vehicle are safer. I will buy a large vehicle."

Of course the occupants of a smaller car are more at risk. That is the point. They don't want their family at risk. They buy the larger vehicle. I doubt the possibility of smashing into a smaller car enters into the decision. I would guess they think something along the lines of-- I would never plow into anyone else. But if they hit me, I want the most steel between us I can get.

Unreasonable, maybe. Thoughtless, ditto. Understandable, absolutly.
For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution;
and it is always wrong
H. L. Mencken, Mencken's Metalaw
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                                         Well, ..... of course. - (Silverlock)
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