Post #105,588
6/10/03 6:15:10 PM
|
Glad to hear
Same tyke what likes brass?
Get 'im a copy of the JJ Arban variations on, "The Bluebells of Scotland" (music Of Course). It begins with the simplest part - the tune which Everyone knows, then it progresses through variations --> Virtuoso.
I can't pretend to know that music-reading parallels ranguage-reading, but think there's a connection (and you have to look up what sostenuto and DC mean - more exercise!)
(This piece is also found in the 1" thick "Arban Conservatory Method", which may be inappropriate unless there's a Serious interest / ie he's forever Hooked on Making your Own Music\ufffd.) This is The complete treatise on Everything. Arban effectively transformed the 'clarino' into a symphonic -and all else- instrument: following the invention of the modern valved trumpet, or various-horns or trombone or.. tuba! even.
(This very piece is extant, played by one Bill Bell - on the tuba!!)
It begins with basics like HTF to breathe!, tells you How to 'triple-tongue' (which is actually rather easy, but sounds impressive as hell) and finally.. how to conserve your energies (lip) for a smashing cadenza after a lengthy workout.
[sneaked-in Philosophy 101] It Works [If.. You Will Work] !! and I add: anyone who really does summon the dogged perseverence to Work in this way, encouraged by modest gains every day: learns an utterly Priceless Lesson which applies to everything else they ever attempt. [/sneaky Philosophy 101] (Of course! you must *never* reveal this secret to a willful sarcastic tyke in full mope-mode.)
Cheers, I Who Be
Ashton
|
Post #105,606
6/10/03 9:03:34 PM
|
He reads music better than most
that is his current problem with the guitar because they dont usually write chords musically so he's turning into a lead guitarist :-) Sits around trying to play ac/dc and ozzie tunes in between practicing the star spangled banner. Horns will have to wait until fall and school starts up again. Didnt have enough for both a horn and a guitar. I noticed that walmart has a pretty decent looking bugle for $225, might get him that down the road. thanx, bill
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
"I hit him so hard in the head his dog shat a turd in the shape of Jesus" Leonard Pine
|
Post #105,749
6/11/03 4:08:55 PM
|
Suggestion -
Might do better on eBay; 225 could get a decent used (sometimes hardly at all) horn. Possibly a known brand. I drop in periodically and note that the original Vincent Bach horns fetch stellar prices, even their secondary models for students - but others, not so pricey.
In general though, the new 'student grade' made for lo- lo- competitive prices, do not strike me as best bang/buck. Hell, my first "own" horn was gotten at a NYC pawn shop, a French brand I think I've forgotten (Not a Selmer! which is also made in USA for some time) Mainly, the point is: the better grades also spend the most time hand-lapping the valves into the casings. Break-in mates them even better - and they stay that way for a long long time. Only Pros can "wear out" valves, over decades of use.
If interested later, could suggest a few to look for.
Ashton
|
Post #105,750
6/11/03 4:13:46 PM
|
OT: brass instruments...
I have a 50? 60? year old Olds trombone played by my late grandfather. "Octagon" slide. He was asked to play with Tommy Dorsey at one point... when I hear trombone like my grandfather played, I wish I had practiced more...
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
|
Post #105,804
6/12/03 3:27:40 AM
|
Oooohhh
No slide trombone adept, but I think I recall the octagonal-slides being memorable (which today means 'collectible') - nice you're keeping yours.
If you audition some turn-of(last)-century stuff, Sousa's Band, Herbert L. Clarke and others - Arthur Pryor was the legendary slide-trombone virtuoso, accomplishing what most believed only keyed instruments might. If interested, try to find "Variations on The Bluebells of Scotland" [Arban] - for one selection as will demonstrate his reputation.
Dunno whether his slides were round or octy, but it seems to me hard to swage close tolerances on the inner or outer - all things considered.
The circle represents God.
Ashton
|
Post #105,810
6/12/03 8:02:54 AM
|
Yes, I've heard Pryor.
My grandfather could play like that... amazing.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
|
Post #105,876
6/12/03 5:13:12 PM
|
Hmmm 'skip a generation'
Might wee Duncan have some trombone genes yet to flourish?
(Sergei Nakarikov could use a duet partner on trumpet --> fleugel, in a few years. Wynton is solidly into jazz, though he can do Everything, too)
ie: More Musicians / fewer Gunners. (or designers of such)
Ashton
|
Post #105,879
6/12/03 5:17:44 PM
|
He definitely has the music genes...
He's a piano player right now.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
|
Post #105,868
6/12/03 4:33:23 PM
|
Dropping in in eBay
You don't have to - you can set up a search and eBay will email you every time one of the things you are searching for shows up.
I did that for brass penguins - I had one to sell. Now, for some reason, I'm too amused at the almost daily report of brass pengiuns being auctioned off to shut it down. Yeah, getting my head examined is on the calendar...
---- Sometime you the windshield, sometime you the bug...
|
Post #105,869
6/12/03 4:38:10 PM
|
ROFL
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
|
Post #105,877
6/12/03 5:14:26 PM
|
{metallic chortle}
|