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New And another thing...
The problem is, cost of stations is now so inflated (thanks Clearchannel) that folks with vision and an alternative cannot afford to play anymore. Those with vision are few, far between and are all among the 20% of the remaining stations that weren't gobbled up in the past 15 years.

There is another issue: source. Despite the payola scandals of the '70s, it still exists, but Reganified (sorry, BeeP, couldn't resist). It's now sanitized, made respectable (sorta), institutionalized, until now, what was once illegal is now expected. The only outfits that can pay the juice are the "Big 5" (Sony, Warner, EMI, Bartlesman, and whoever I forgot as the fifth bastard). What do they pay for? The artists for whom they have the biggest A&R budgets; that is, the megastars -- the proven producers whose names are automatically equated with sales, regardless of how badly their latest opus was mailed in.

So consider: You have most of the outlets in the hands of the few (or the one), and you have most of the source in the hands of the few, and they stroke each other outputing the S.O.S. over and over and overandoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandover....
you get the idea.

So where's the new stuff (you know...the stuff you want to listen to) coming from? And where are you gonna hear it?

I don't either!

Given this, does anyone really believe that the reason radio ratings continue to decline, and record sales continue to decline, is because of KaZaA?
jb4
"We continue to live in a world where all our know-how is locked into binary files in an unknown format. If our documents are our corporate memory, Microsoft still has us all condemned to Alzheimer's."
Simon Phipps, SUN Microsystems
New Decline due to file sharing
is almost certainly not the fact of the matter, but it sure makes a convenient scapegoat to get the decision makers involved in turning radio and the record industry into crap off the hook.
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New Re: And another thing...
So where's the new stuff (you know...the stuff you want to listen to) coming from? And where are you gonna hear it?


Well, for the most part, (although I could be wrong), you hear about new music coming out or albums being produced on TV or other media almost as much as radio, these days, especially the internet.

I am not one who looks for new music anymore, I stopped really liking "modern" music sometime in the late 80's and stick with my tried and true 70's rock for the most part now. But once upon a time, I used the radio to learn new songs for my mom's band, and was paid to transcribe lyrics for them, among other things. So I know the radio used to be one of the main sources of publicity for new bands and such.

Of course, that was before the advent of music videos and other media designed to showcase new music.

I don't either!


Given this, does anyone really believe that the reason radio ratings continue to decline, and record sales continue to decline, is because of KaZaA?


Well it isn't cause of me, cause I sure never use KaZaa, in fact, I don't have one single midi song or whatever those computer music bits are called, on my whole computer unless you count the start up and end of bits of an Elton John tune. ;)

Nightowl >8#


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