Post #101,387
5/12/03 5:31:55 AM
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Re: A much clearer explanation
There are so many complex interdependencies of kernel, scripts, and permissions, not to mention the comparatively trivial issue of software versions, that it's very easy for inexplicable shit like this to happen. After being around UNIX long enough you get a "feeling" for what might be happening, and that allows you to track down the issue. To make matters even more ridiculous, the systems geniuses out there are trying to push "IPv6" - which is really "IPNG" which is really the "ping" program cleverly rearranged and amplified into system stomping alphaware. Aren't those guys clever!!!
You DO realize that the IP filtering function is now inside the kernel distribution? In SuSE you make sure that's turned on (it is in the land yacht kernel that ships with it). The VERY FIRST thing I do with a new version of Linux is rip all the BS out of the kernel by traversing every last option and turning off everything that isn't directly related to my needs and my hardware. I then track down every last error and warning and get rid of them one by one. This is a tedious, time-consuming thing, but it pays off because you can eliminate the kernel as a source of issues, and you get to know all its aspects. If IP won't start, something is badly horked about your configuration.
Doing a firewall should be easy with folkert's scripts. I'd just start over, by minimalizing the kernel and going over /var/log/messages (warn, faillog..) and the output of dmesg until all the warnings and errors are removed.
Note: a lot of issues can hide in the modprobe mechanism. Many problems get solved by properly editing /etc/modules.conf.
-drl
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Post #101,391
5/12/03 6:44:49 AM
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Whoa. Where did you find this thread?
Man, 2001... I remember this. It launched one of my more successful storylines.
No... must... not... remember... ordeal... must... fight... back... flood... of... painful... memories... nnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?" - Edward Young
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Post #101,432
5/12/03 10:26:04 AM
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Post 8118 was edited
Karsten found a typo.
Darrell Spice, Jr. [link|http://www.spiceware.org/cgi-bin/spa.pl?album=./Artistic%20Overpass|Artistic Overpass]\n[link|http://www.spiceware.org/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
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Post #101,434
5/12/03 10:30:02 AM
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So, is anal-compulsive...
...hyphenated? \r\n\r\n I was dredging up some old links for my "conquests" archive (see reply to Broomberg above). And found some glaring typos. Which I fixed.
--\r\n Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n [link|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]\r\n What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n [link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n \r\n Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.\r\n[link|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]\r\n
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Post #101,425
5/12/03 9:56:45 AM
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As opposed to Windows?!?!?
After being around UNIX long enough you get a "feeling" for what might be happening, and that allows you to track down the issue.
As opposed to Windows where strange stuff happens and you have no idea how to track down what's wrong. E.g. I have a Pentium III-500 SCSI Win95B box on Ethernet that is unable to find the TCP/IP network after a while for no apparent reason and no obvious way to figure out what's causing it. At least with UNIX - and Linux - there are ways to figure out what's going on under the covers. With Windows there are hidden tunnels under the sheets that MS doesn't want you snooping around in...
Me: My PC can't find the TCP/IP network after it's been running a while.
MS: 1) Oh, that. Well you need to purchase a service contract before I can talk to you. 2) Oh, that. Well you need to reinstall. 3) Oh, that. Well you need to upgrade to WinXP Pro. 4) Oh, that....
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #101,427
5/12/03 10:00:50 AM
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Very True
Even if Windows were internally perfect, the deliberate obscurity would still be a major pain.
(As to the problem - could power management be shutting down the adapter? Second thought - after some interval another computer wins a browser election, and that hoses you because there is a hidden problem with WINS. Set "LM Announce" and "Browse Master" to "Yes".)
-drl
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Post #101,431
5/12/03 10:16:17 AM
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Answers
1) There's no power management enabled on the PC. 2) It's an Intel Pro/100+ Ethernet adapter. It's on a 100 Mbit lan hooked into a Linsys 10/100 Hub. 3) WINS isn't used. The IP address is correct and is set manually. The DNS addresses are correct and set manually. 4) The PC is on 24/7 for weeks at a time, but the problem doesn't seem to be related to the 40-some-odd-day-uptime-clock-rollover bug in Win9x.
It seems like it loses track of the DNS when the problem happens. Sometimes the problem happens less than 10 minutes after rebooting, but it hasn't happened recently (uptime = 3 days 21 hours+).
"Upgrading" to another version of Windows isn't an option as the PC uses some hardware that doesn't have drivers for newer versions of Windows.
Thanks for your help. See, that wasn't so hard was it? :-)
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #101,433
5/12/03 10:27:40 AM
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Make an LMHOSTS file
Set LM Announce to "Yes" still, but don't worry about the Browse Master.
Old Windows has issues related to WINS/DNS interaction - and by WINS, we mean how Windows resolves NetBIOS names to IP addresses (not just a WINS server).
-drl
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Post #101,437
5/12/03 10:40:23 AM
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It's just a TCP/IP issue.
Not NetBIOS.
I'll muck around with it later when I get a chance. Thanks again.
Cheers, Scott.
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