Post #97,636
4/21/03 2:33:58 PM
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Cujo is a better goalie than Osgood
No doubt about that. Sure Osgood has won one or more Cups with them but he had a team in front of him that *wanted* to win, not to mention a Hall of Fame coach behind the bench. You could have put any normal good goalie in there and the result would be the same. This year the Wings just didn't show up like in previous years and they didn't rise to the challenge of a hot goaltender. I think most people would take Cujo over Osgood any day. The biggest problem with Cujo is when he has a bad game sometimes it can become a funk which takes a while for him to get out of. It also doesn't help when the players in front of him doesn't help him out defensively during that time.
Joseph is the calibre of goalie that should rank up there with Roy, Belfour, Hasek, Brodeur, etc. His one step down from them is that he hasn't won the Cup yet. That being said I still don't like Hasek or Belfour. :-)
lister
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Post #97,643
4/21/03 2:45:29 PM
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You better be pulling for Eddie tonight!
My 10 year old is a Wings fan, my 12 year old is a Leafs fan. When Cujo's trade happened there was pandamonium in my house. The 10 year old was telling the 12 year old, "Now that Cujo's with a real team, he'll win the Cup!" My 12 year old responded, "I hope its a Wings/Leafs final this year. It'll serve Cujo right to lose his chance at the Cup to the Leafs."
Now, of course, the 10 year old is saying, "Why did you guys give us this shlock? Take him back, please!" The 12 year old is gleeful. I don't encourage this sort of thing and try to stop it when it comes up, but I'm guessing Cujo's in for a rough ride in the press in Detroit as bad as the "Jo-Sieve" article last year in Toronto.
He is a great goalie, no question, but you'll have to admit, sometimes he doesn't show up. And he's more prone to let an easy one (or two) in than Roy, Brodeur, Belfour, et. al.
bcnu,
Mikem
The soul and substance of what customarily ranks as patriotism is moral cowardice and always has been...We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism.
- Mark Twain, "Monarchical and Republican Patriotism"
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Post #97,660
4/21/03 3:56:48 PM
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Kind of have to or else the hockey season is over
It's unfortauntely one of those necessary evils having to cheer for Belfour. *sigh* It could be worse, the Leafs could have had Hasek instead. *shiver*
Without a shadow of a doubt I'd rather have Roy or Brodeur over Cujo. When it comes to the likes of Hasek or Belfour then things get debateable since I really can't stand the two. Belfour though has surprised me this season. He did much better than I thought both performance-wise and personality-wise.
If I was a Detroit fan, I wouldn't be pointing my finger entirely at Joseph. Look at his numbers in the series. Those kinds of numbers usually means a series win. Even if Joseph put up doughnuts, the players still need to score to win. As far as I'm concerned the blame mostly falls on the coach and the players in front of Joseph.
Just like with the Leafs if they fail tonight or tomorrow, the blame should not fall entirely on Belfour even though he let in some softies. The Leafs have failed to shoot the puck and get the $%^&*@#$% in front of Chokmanic. I get so tired of yelling "GET OUT IN FRONT!!!" when the Leafs are in the offensive zone. AAAAAAHHHHH!!
lister
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Post #97,955
4/22/03 4:10:53 PM
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You are prophetic.
I'm on pins and needles for tonight (Tuesday). Man, Monday night was some of the best hockey I have ever seen. Edge of the seat almost constantly. I hope they continue to get in front of Chockmaniac, and keep those hits coming - NOBODY deserves to be knocked near-unconscious more than any Flyer.
Wasn't it Pat Quinn who said, "You could call a penalty on Philadelphia every time they go down ice."?
Or words to that effect. I hope they send the thugs to the golf course early this year.
bcnu,
Mikem
The soul and substance of what customarily ranks as patriotism is moral cowardice and always has been...We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism.
- Mark Twain, "Monarchical and Republican Patriotism"
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Post #97,648
4/21/03 2:54:29 PM
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Osgood so I have an excuse for a st louis run
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]
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Post #97,652
4/21/03 3:02:37 PM
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You have access to playoff tickets?
Got any for Toronto? :-)
bcnu,
Mikem
The soul and substance of what customarily ranks as patriotism is moral cowardice and always has been...We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism.
- Mark Twain, "Monarchical and Republican Patriotism"
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Post #97,658
4/21/03 3:48:16 PM
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Probably just Tampa Bay tickets
Forget about trying to get Toronto tickets. Each series gets sold out in mere single digit minutes. After that you're at the mercy of a scalper, whether the business or street kind. If you've got the money to blow though it is a fantastic atmosphere to watch a game in. The only playoff games I've been at was back during the '92-'93 playoff run. Saw a Detroit game and the last game against LA (damn Kerry Fraser!!!!) Man, MLG sure was loud.
Actually what's pretty sad is that Senators playoff tickets have been available beyond the initial first release.
lister
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Post #97,959
4/22/03 4:19:01 PM
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Hey lister, you in Toronto?
I've got a standing promise to take my daughters to 1 NHL game of their chosing each. That means an annual trip to the Joe and usually one trip to the United Center (when the Leafs come) since I can never, ever get tickets to a home Leafs game. I've tried for 2 years and I want 'em before I head north. What's the secret to getting good ($100-$150/seat range) tickets to a home Leafs game?
bcnu,
Mikem
The soul and substance of what customarily ranks as patriotism is moral cowardice and always has been...We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism.
- Mark Twain, "Monarchical and Republican Patriotism"
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Post #98,288
4/23/03 2:55:06 PM
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Yep I'm here in Hogtown (sorry didn't notice your post)
There are three ways of getting Leaf tickets:
1) Be waiting at ticketmaster.ca when regular season tickets are made available
2) Know someone who has tickets
3) Buy from a scalper business or person
The easiest but most costliest option is number three. You're usually looking at paying 1.5 to 2 times the face value for the tickets. One place I used this past season is ticketcentre.com. Call them up, pay by credit card and they'll courier the tickets wherever you like. Expensive but you'll be able to get tickets when you want them. There's always eBay as well.
If you're going to try option one make sure you find out when tickets are made available. They're gone in mere minutes especially anything greater than singles.
lister
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Post #98,292
4/23/03 3:03:55 PM
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No worries.
I've been trying option 1 without success - they are gone before I can get a connection. One thing you didn't mention is a box office at the barn itself. There's how bad I've got it, I'd actually make a trip to Toronto just to buy tickets for a later date ;-)
Is that possible and more/less likely to get good seats?
bcnu,
Mikem
The soul and substance of what customarily ranks as patriotism is moral cowardice and always has been...We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism.
- Mark Twain, "Monarchical and Republican Patriotism"
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Post #98,321
4/23/03 3:47:09 PM
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Buying tickets in person
You better come the day the regular season tickets go on sale. Come early and be prepared to wait in line. I can't remember exactly how that worked. Someone may have mentioned it in the Leafs newsgroup. You may want to do some searching through there. There may have been some sort of pre-sales lineup ahead of time which xxx number of people got the priviledge to purchase tickets and then came the real lineup at some later date. Or maybe some sort of lottery. My mind is fuzzy now. I don't have the patience for stuff like that so I never really pay attention to the opening ticket sales thing. I just pay extra buying from a scalper. Evil yes but time is money. :-)
lister
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Post #98,322
4/23/03 3:49:51 PM
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Re: Buying tickets in person
I had a coworker who was on the waiting list for Green Bay Packers season tix. She was something like 27,000th in line!!!
But it gets worse. The only way to get Chicago Bears season tix is to inherit them.
-drl
Light is heavy:
R{} = (2R/W)T - (1/2W){D-2,D-2}W
Heavy is light:
(D-3)(RF[] + 5/4 g) = 0
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Post #98,329
4/23/03 3:59:20 PM
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That's like getting seasons tickets here
There's like a loooooong list of people waiting for them (I've read something like 20 year wait) and practically the only way to get them is through inheritence. Crazy stuff considering how expensive tickets can be.
lister
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Post #98,393
4/23/03 7:34:58 PM
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56 years for Bucs Season Tickets
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
Carpe Dieu
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Post #98,409
4/23/03 9:04:03 PM
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When did that happen though?
After they won the Super Bowl? :-) I'm not a NFL fan but I do know the Bucs sucked hard for a long, long time.
lister
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Post #97,673
4/21/03 4:38:33 PM
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nope, just an excuse to get pissed with Doc
could get local playoff tickets, The sell outs are still mostly corporate giveaways.
thanx,
bill
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
Carpe Dieu
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Post #97,676
4/21/03 4:41:06 PM
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Well, fingers crossed there, buddy
-drl
Light is heavy:
R{} = (2R/W)T - (1/2W){D-2,D-2}W
Heavy is light:
(D-3)(RF[] + 5/4 g) = 0
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Post #97,659
4/21/03 3:54:33 PM
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Saving my flames
..for Wednesday :)
Our problem has not been Osgood - it's sloppy play in our own zone, stupid Pronger stick tricks, and the annual Tkachuk "Hey it's the playoffs! Now I can quit!" routine.
-drl
Light is heavy:
R{} = (2R/W)T - (1/2W){D-2,D-2}W
Heavy is light:
(D-3)(RF[] + 5/4 g) = 0
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