Do you live here, like a troll under a freaking bridge?

I hate Windows, but if I want to write my papers without worrying about apps that don't work correctly, I'm stuck with it.

There are always alternatives.

You should use TeX. After all, [link|http://www.tug.org/|TeX] is [link|http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/abcde.html#texbk|nearly bug free] according to Knuth:

I still take full responsibility for the master sources of TeX, METAFONT, and Computer Modern. Therefore I periodically take a few days off from my current projects and look at all of the accumulated bug reports. This happened most recently in 1992, 1993, 1995, 1998, and 2002; following this pattern, I intend to check on purported bugs again in the years 2007, 2013, 2020, 2028, etc. The intervals between such maintenance periods are increasing, because the systems have been converging to an error-free state. The latest and best TeX is currently version 3.141592 (and plain.tex is version 3.1415926); METAFONT is currently version 2.71828 (and plain.mf is version 2.71). All these systems are Y2K-compliant. My last will and testament for TeX and METAFONT is that their version numbers ultimately become $\\pi$ and $e$, respectively. At that point they will be completely error-free by definition.

Rewards

If you do succeed in finding a previously undiscovered bug in the programs for either TeX or METAFONT, I shall gladly pay you a reward of $327.68. Corrections to errors in The TeXbook or The METAFONTbook are worth $2.56, as in all my other books.

;-)

Cheers,
Scott.

...that a REAL arsehole just NEVER shuts up -- not even seven posts down-thread from what it SAID would be its "last post in this discussion".(*)

And, just so you'll know, Doggie-boy: *Ashton* -- and one or two others -- may well "stand 10 times taller and be 10 times more effective than a gorilla(+)", but... Ahem, uh, to borrow (and probably distort) a phrase: I know Ashton, and you're no Ashton.

IOW, and to continue your own metaphor: You, bubba, are more like a flea biting the "gorilla" on some insignificant speck of skin somewhere down by the ankle: An irritation, but hardly "taller" or "more effective".

Now. Shut. The. Fuck. UP!

(*): And if it's a *cowardly* arsehole to boot, it carries on the same *conversation* but carefully avoids doing so in the same *thread*, in order to later be able to weasel out of not having kept its promise.

(+): i.e, me. Ook! Ook!

Post #95,078 by deSitter 4/8/03 4:13:48 PM Reply	Do you live here, like a troll under a freaking bridge? Why should anyone bitch about compatibility? I hate Windows, but if I want to write my papers without worrying about apps that don't work correctly, I'm stuck with it. I'm stuck with it at work. The only place I'm not stuck with it is on my (soon to be installed) Linux firewall and scratch database server. -drl Though my feet aren't on the ground, I've been standing on the sound Of some open hearted people, going down.
Post #95,085 by Another Scott 4/8/03 4:46:57 PM Reply	Eh? You should use TeX. I hate Windows, but if I want to write my papers without worrying about apps that don't work correctly, I'm stuck with it. There are always alternatives. You should use TeX. After all, [link\|http://www.tug.org/\|TeX] is [link\|http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/abcde.html#texbk\|nearly bug free] according to Knuth: I still take full responsibility for the master sources of TeX, METAFONT, and Computer Modern. Therefore I periodically take a few days off from my current projects and look at all of the accumulated bug reports. This happened most recently in 1992, 1993, 1995, 1998, and 2002; following this pattern, I intend to check on purported bugs again in the years 2007, 2013, 2020, 2028, etc. The intervals between such maintenance periods are increasing, because the systems have been converging to an error-free state. The latest and best TeX is currently version 3.141592 (and plain.tex is version 3.1415926); METAFONT is currently version 2.71828 (and plain.mf is version 2.71). All these systems are Y2K-compliant. My last will and testament for TeX and METAFONT is that their version numbers ultimately become $\\pi$ and $e$, respectively. At that point they will be completely error-free by definition. Rewards If you do succeed in finding a previously undiscovered bug in the programs for either TeX or METAFONT, I shall gladly pay you a reward of $327.68. Corrections to errors in The TeXbook or The METAFONTbook are worth $2.56, as in all my other books. ;-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #95,087 by deSitter 4/8/03 5:08:15 PM Reply	Re: Eh? You should use TeX. I have no time to waste on archaisms. I use MathType because it is very fast and easy to use. It outputs TeX for those people who need it. Writing TeX directly is not fit work for Christians :) -drl Though my feet aren't on the ground, I've been standing on the sound Of some open hearted people, going down.
Post #95,088 by hnick 4/8/03 5:12:09 PM Reply	Well, lions don't have the digital dexterity...
Post #95,096 by CRConrad 4/8/03 5:38:13 PM Reply	Bullshit - you fucking LOVE Windows. Everything you write about it -- except when you say "I hate Windows" -- SHOWS that you LOVE it. No, I don't "live here, like a troll under a freaking bridge"; I just drag the rotten carcasses of formerly live posters here -- to the boneyard, where they belong -- whenever I notice that cerebral activity has ceased. [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #95,098 by inthane-chan 4/8/03 5:39:41 PM Reply	LPRD candidate! (new thread) Created as new thread #95097 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=95097\|LPRD candidate!] After 9/11, Bush made two statements: 1. "Terrorists hate America because America is a land of freedom and opportunity." 2. "We intend to attack the root causes of terrorism." Sounds like everything is going according to plan.
Post #95,100 by deSitter 4/8/03 5:43:21 PM Reply	Re: Bullshit - you fucking LOVE Windows. No, I've given up on computers as any kind of challenge or source of satisfaction/sanity, and just use what's usable, whether minimally or not. The days doesn't pass when I don't cuss this POS. The fact that I stick with Windows 98 - the least of evils - should tell you something. I have never liked Windows - it's boring. But the applications work better than the ones on Linux, which is also mostly a cack OS outside of grunt server work. (BTW funny flame.) -drl Though my feet aren't on the ground, I've been standing on the sound Of some open hearted people, going down.
Post #95,301 by dmarker 4/9/03 3:22:42 AM Reply	Hmm - CRC lives in Stephen King novels (boneyard monster) Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003
Post #95,469 by CRConrad 4/9/03 5:55:46 PM Reply	YM 'coz I got more Cujo-nes than you, mr Get-The-Last-Word?
Post #95,513 by dmarker 4/9/03 7:15:20 PM 4/9/03 7:24:55 PM Reply	Shit! yo still smarting, given time you'll recover <g> PS: Hmmm, how to put this gently, welll Capt Queeg sir, them Cajones you are talking about, well sir, they are really just steel !!! perhaps it would be best if you let them go <g> Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003 Edited by dmarker April 9, 2003, 07:24:55 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #95,655 by CRConrad 4/10/03 6:42:12 AM Reply	"Smarting"?!? From anything you said or did, dweeb-face? Not hardly, you utter fucking "vbg" weenie. Now, will you have the FUCKING decency to SHUT UP? (At least until you learn to spell 'cojones', you frigging moron.) [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #98,461 by dmarker 4/24/03 3:42:25 AM Reply	Once a 500lb gorilla - always a 500lb gorilla Just wanted to take the time to confirm it From Ashton we learn that a gentleman weilding a writing stick can stand 10 times taller and be 10 times more effective than a gorilla waving a tree trunk & executing noise by way of a foul mouth. Doug Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003
Post #98,788 by CRConrad 4/25/03 5:05:41 PM Reply	And from, you we learn... ...that a REAL arsehole just NEVER shuts up -- not even seven posts down-thread from what it SAID would be its "last post in this discussion".() And, just so you'll know, Doggie-boy: Ashton* -- and one or two others -- may well "stand 10 times taller and be 10 times more effective than a gorilla(+)", but... Ahem, uh, to borrow (and probably distort) a phrase: I know Ashton, and you're no Ashton. IOW, and to continue your own metaphor: You, bubba, are more like a flea biting the "gorilla" on some insignificant speck of skin somewhere down by the ankle: An irritation, but hardly "taller" or "more effective". Now. Shut. The. Fuck. UP! (): And if it's a cowardly* arsehole to boot, it carries on the same conversation but carefully avoids doing so in the same thread, in order to later be able to weasel out of not having kept its promise. (+): i.e, me. Ook! Ook! [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #98,804 by dmarker 4/25/03 7:45:51 PM Reply	King Kong tantrums seem to suit you well clearly the level you belong. Cheers (Now you go clean your mouth out with carbolic soap <g>) Spectres from our past: Beware the future when your children & theirs come after you for what you may have been willing to condone today - dsm 2003 Motivational: When performing activities, ask yourself if the person you most want to be would do, or say, it - dsm 2003
Post #98,828 by deSitter 4/25/03 11:17:24 PM Reply	It's just his act ..frustrated Viking. Sort of like Hagar the Horrible. But, somewhat more cynical and less optimistic. -drl
Post #98,830 by Ashton 4/25/03 11:49:21 PM Reply	But... it's The FUCKING FLAME FORUM and - (new thread) Created as new thread #98829 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=98829\|But... it's The FUCKING FLAME FORUM and -]

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