I'll disagree on V and XI, but otherwise, very nice.

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Post #87,341 by Brandioch 3/11/03 12:42:07 PM Reply	I'll disagree on V and XI, but otherwise, very nice.
Post #87,345 by jake123 3/11/03 1:00:38 PM Reply	Move to Canada Free health care and multi-culturalism are official policy here. To get a handle on some of the philosophical ideas behind it, start [link\|http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20030311/COSAUL/TPComment/TopStories\|here]. Then go and get some of his [link\|http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-4478434-8270220\|other books]. A good first read is the Doubter's Companion... extremely funny. Read the entry on Kenneth Taylor... it's priceless. --\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\r\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \r\n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \r\n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #87,349 by deSitter 3/11/03 1:09:31 PM Reply	Re: Move to Canada We can't - the prejudice against Americans wishing to emigrate is too much to overcome. -drl
Post #87,351 by jake123 3/11/03 1:11:23 PM Reply	:) You'd probably have a hard time getting in, anyway. One of the big debates going on up here now is around how we've changed our immigration/refugee policy at the behest of the US (in order to keep an open border); it includes automatic detention for refugees. --\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\r\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \r\n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \r\n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #87,355 by deSitter 3/11/03 1:16:19 PM Reply	It's Not Funny I would move tomorrow if it were even halfway possible. I don't feel at home anywhere in the States. That is what my govt has done for me. I've considered just showing up on the doorstep. -drl
Post #87,370 by boxley 3/11/03 1:44:57 PM Reply	NAFTA is bi-directional we can work and live there no prob if it is in an listed industry. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]</br> "If you want to meet a group of people who have a profound distrust of, and hostility toward, our legal system, don't waste your time on political radicals; interview a random selection of crime victims, and you will probably find that they make the former group look like utopian idealists by comparison." Dave Robicheaux
Post #87,376 by admin 3/11/03 1:53:01 PM Reply	Yeah, right. The exchange rate ruins that. People in Canada work in the States because they get paid more, both in dollar amounts and because of the exchange rate. The cost of living is lower in Canada, so it's a big win. The exact same forces prevent US workers from doing the same; it isn't economically feasible. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #87,385 by deSitter 3/11/03 2:15:44 PM 3/11/03 2:20:32 PM Reply	Yep Not only that.. I've investigated emigration to several places. The answer is always a mix of doubts and impossible roadblocks. IOW, multiculturalism is fine, unless you're white, western, and male. -drl Edited by deSitter March 11, 2003, 02:20:32 PM EST Expand All History
Post #87,389 by jake123 3/11/03 2:18:23 PM Reply	In practice, multiculturalism doesn't work out that way But you'd have to pass some time up here to see that. --\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\r\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \r\n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \r\n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #88,243 by orion 3/14/03 12:51:20 AM Reply	Escape from St. Louis Form your own country, I think that island on the Mississippi river can be claimed as a new country. It is usually known as no-man's land and people met there to duel because the state and federal laws didn't apply there. The United States Of deSitter, population 1. Build a lean-to, and elect yourself as President and then apply to the UN for membership. Print up your own money using an Inkjet or Laserjet printer. Either that or apply for a Reality TV show and get relocated for a few months to someplace else and hope you don't get voted off. Canada don't want you, how about Mexico? Learn to speak Spanish and get a job at one of the many factories there. We stop them from coming into the US, but not from leaving the US to Mexico. Bring as many US Dollars as you can to Mexico, enough to buy some land and a house, with money left over to bribe the officials to keep you out of jail for being a Gringo. :) [link\|http://pub75.ezboard.com/bantiiwethey\| New and improved, Chicken Delvits!]
Post #87,839 by tuberculosis 3/12/03 9:04:50 PM 8/21/07 6:28:06 AM Reply	Too cold I grew up in Detroit - that's close enough. "I made up the term 'object-oriented', and I can tell you I didn't have C++ in mind" - Alan Kay, OOPSLA '97 Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:28:06 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #87,849 by deSitter 3/12/03 9:19:18 PM Reply	What?? You grew up in Detroit?? That is great! Hey! Guess who the Blues have in goal now? (That is hilarious - you and admin and fooker. What is it about Michigan? ps just bought "Grank Funk the 1971 Tour" recorded in part in Detroit. Flint band - ROCK.) -drl
Post #87,851 by boxley 3/12/03 9:25:52 PM Reply	MC5 WAS the michigan band of all time will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]</br> "If you want to meet a group of people who have a profound distrust of, and hostility toward, our legal system, don't waste your time on political radicals; interview a random selection of crime victims, and you will probably find that they make the former group look like utopian idealists by comparison." Dave Robicheaux
Post #87,996 by cwbrenn 3/13/03 9:41:00 AM Reply	Kick Out the Jams, Mothe - :) "We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?" - Edward Young
Post #88,006 by boxley 3/13/03 9:58:26 AM Reply	got that vynl around somewhere will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]</br> "If you want to meet a group of people who have a profound distrust of, and hostility toward, our legal system, don't waste your time on political radicals; interview a random selection of crime victims, and you will probably find that they make the former group look like utopian idealists by comparison." Dave Robicheaux
Post #88,015 by jake123 3/13/03 10:35:11 AM Reply	Heh Blue Öyster Cult had a great cover of that tune on one of their live albums... ummm. Some Enchanted Evening. --\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\r\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \r\n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \r\n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #87,875 by tuberculosis 3/12/03 10:09:05 PM 8/21/07 6:29:05 AM Reply	All the good live albums were cut in the motor city. Bob Seger Live Bullet Most of the J Geils live stuff Even the dreaded Journey "Captured". Great rock town. RE: Blues - I'm an Avs fan. Sister is still in Detroit - makes for interesting family dynamics on Wings-Avs game weekends. Much razzing all around. "I was reading in Rolling Stone where they said the Detroit audiences are the greatest rock n roll audiences in the world. I thought to myself, "shit I've know that for ten years". Bob Seger Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:29:05 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #87,877 by admin 3/12/03 10:11:30 PM Reply	Sister still here? Let me know if you're ever in town to visit her, of course. :-) Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #87,893 by tuberculosis 3/12/03 10:45:49 PM 8/21/07 6:29:23 AM Reply	Yep - Grosse Pte But I never go visit her - for some reason she always wants to come here :-) In fact, she'll be here (OK Vail) this weekend. "I made up the term 'object-oriented', and I can tell you I didn't have C++ in mind" - Alan Kay, OOPSLA '97 Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:29:23 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #87,909 by admin 3/12/03 11:13:14 PM Reply	Vail? Well, damn... Screw you, buddy... I'll just go to Vail with your sister... ;-) Been too long since I've had some really good skiing. Last time was Winter Park in '90 or so. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #87,881 by deSitter 3/12/03 10:17:21 PM Reply	Wrong fscking answer I was in Denver, and there was ZERO hockey interest outside some for DU's college team. (Nice hoochies though - intellectual and all.) The very year I left, the Avs slunk in from Quebec - just when the Nordiques were about to give the Quebecois something to cheer about - and stole the goddamn cup! Well, I HATE the "Avs" (what kind of name is that?), and we will kick your ass in the playoffs, goalie or none! We'll do it for Canada! The right answer is "OOOSSS-GOOOOODD OSSSSS-GOOOODDD". With utmost respect nevertheless to Sakic and Roy. -drl
Post #87,878 by admin 3/12/03 10:12:05 PM Reply	Fooker...? Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #87,885 by deSitter 3/12/03 10:22:35 PM Reply	Re: Fooker...? Fooker. [image\|http://www.gpf-comics.com/comics/gpf19990705.gif\|\|\|\|] -drl
Post #87,887 by admin 3/12/03 10:27:23 PM Reply	Oh, THAT Fooker. Didn't realize he was supposed to be from Detroit. :-) Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #87,888 by deSitter 3/12/03 10:29:50 PM Reply	Folkert - fooker - okay it's a stretch ..but somehow it always seemed to fit. Did YOU get it, fooker? -drl
Post #87,891 by admin 3/12/03 10:38:27 PM Reply	Heh... Well, he's from Michigan at least... about 2.5-3 hours away, so he might as well be Drew for that matter. :-) Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #87,919 by boxley 3/12/03 11:37:18 PM Reply	ohio michigan wtfd :) will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]</br> "If you want to meet a group of people who have a profound distrust of, and hostility toward, our legal system, don't waste your time on political radicals; interview a random selection of crime victims, and you will probably find that they make the former group look like utopian idealists by comparison." Dave Robicheaux
Post #87,980 by admin 3/13/03 8:50:43 AM Reply	Snowfall. And the smell. But then again, the smell makes it easier to find Ohio State for away games... Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #88,103 by drewk 3/13/03 3:39:38 PM Reply	/me cheerfully fails to rise to the bait === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.