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New It's probably a matter of semantics...
First...I'm not unbiased on this issue....and if you can find anyone unbiased, let me know, I'll be amazed.

I can't call the teams that took the aircraft either morons or cowards. They executed the attack VERY well - so they can't be morons. They willingly died for their cause, so they aren't cowards.

They aren't noble - any idiot can die for a cause and dying for a STUPID cause is ... well ... foolish. So I will give them a SMALL amount of credit - they were willing to die for what they believed in...wonderful, now they're on the same playing field as the combine kids and the idiots believing in UFO's and purple sheets.

The real cowards - and why it's called a cowardly act - are the ones who used these kids to make statements.
New Who are we calling the terrorists?
The evil people that hijacked the plane (by attacking women and children) or the evil people that have developed the plan to commit murder and suicide?

Even cowards can be called brave if they walk into danger but "taking candy from a baby" is not an act of bravery. I guess many think that committing suicide is brave. I'm not so sure.
New Suicide
is different from giving your life for "the cause". Suicide is self destruction for no gain. The people who carried out the attacks knew they were probably going to die and did so willingly (I assume).

Ask an infantryman attacking up hill against a fortified gun emplacement what his chances of survial are, and then ask if he will still carryout the attack. "Is suicide to attack, but ..."
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@mn.mediaone.net|Joe]
New I disagree.
Suicide: One who takes one's own life.

End of debate.
     Possible reason for the PA crash - passengers heard the news - (dmarker2) - (26)
         Re: some further dialogue on the alleged event ... - (dmarker2) - (25)
             You have a wise friend; can we borrow him? -NT - (Ashton)
             Wasn't me asking if plane was shot down... -NT - (jbrabeck)
             well noted as Mayor Guiliani said - (boxley)
             Disagreement re: cowardice - (jb4) - (19)
                 Note on WWII. - (addison)
                 Regarding cowards and evil demons - (brettj)
                 Osama bin Ladin - (JayMehaffey) - (8)
                     Question - (jbrabeck) - (6)
                         Terrorist or Soldier - (JayMehaffey) - (5)
                             Re: Terrorist or Soldier - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                 Re: Terrorist or Soldier - (JayMehaffey)
                             Bombing to cause civ casualties: Dresden 1945 - (GBert) - (2)
                                 Yes, a war crime, that. - (Ashton) - (1)
                                     Yes, Dresden was a war crime - (Andrew Grygus)
                     Interesting; Can an individual declare war? - (jb4)
                 It's probably a matter of semantics... - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
                     Who are we calling the terrorists? - (brettj) - (2)
                         Suicide - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                             I disagree. - (brettj)
                 "Cowardly" is a Clintonism. - (marlowe)
                 Re: It takes balls... - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                     Exactly - (tuberculosis)
                     Re: It takes balls... - (TTC)
             I don't want revenge, exactly. - (marlowe) - (1)
                 And another thing. - (marlowe)

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