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New You are a true believer. .... Remarkable.
Keep drinkin' the Kool-Aid, Beep.
New I said no such thing.
And even with a "smoking gun", I see no reason to invade Iraq. I don't view them as a clear and present danger to the security of the United States.

This was simply a statement to Marlowe to not bother. It is obvious that there are some here that will accept nothing as proof...even direct evidence...if that proof differs from their opinion.

However, I do see this continued game being played as proof that the United Nations is a farce and a waste of taxpayer money and diplomatic efforts.

No need to drink the kool-aid bud.

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Oh, I thought you implied there was "evidence".
I have no doubt that Saddam Hussein is a dastardly fellow. I've known that since at least the last time the current crop was in power (recall Rumsfield's trip to shake Saddam's hand during the time Iraq was using US supplied WMD?). This group of thugs (along with Dubya's Daddy) blocked attempts to institute trade sanctions against Iraq for using Mustard Gas on his own people.

These guys have no credibility with me. They didn't in the 80's, they don't now.

And that includes the "untouchable" Colon Powell. (spelling intentional)
New what I cant figger out is that you guys all agree we gave
sadaam WMD but are now saying they never existed. Can ya make up yer friggin minds?
thanx,
bill
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New Cite please? When did I ever say anything like that?
That said, I doubt, after the last round of very heavy bombing, that many remain.
Which is why the inspectors are a good idea - just in case we missed any while we were killing >50,000 civilians.
New So you will admit that some may remain?
Now is Sadaam co-operating with the inspectors?
Is there any evidence that he has given up his wanting of WMD?
I am not sure if invasion is needed just assasination of him and 100 of his closest friends.
thanx,
bill
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New Was wanting to have the the crime?
Is there any evidence that he has given up his wanting of WMD?
He can WANT. So what? It isn't the WANT, it's the USAGE.

Duh!

Now is Sadaam co-operating with the inspectors?
Not as much as certain people would like. But then, certain people want to invade no matter WHAT is found.

How about this. Is the US co-operating with the inspectors?

The US is the one pushing for war. But the US is NOT sharing the information it CLAIMS it has.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
New No, it isn't the usage either.
Or, maybe now it is. In the 80's it wasn't, but that was then, I guess, this is now.

IMO, Rumsfeld is as morally bankrupt as Saddam is.
New IMO you are right
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New And tomorrow is another day.
When the usage might be okay again.

After all, we have our elements who want to use OUR "Weapons of Mass Destruction" against innocent civilians.

If we do it
-or-
If our "friends" do it
-or-
If it is done to our "enemies"
-or-
If it is done to people we really just care about
-then-
We be cool with that.
For today.
As long as you're our "friend" and/or they are our "enemy".

And if YOU refrain from using them......
Well...........
You'd better be our best "friend" in that neighborhood.....
Otherwise, we just might support a better "friend"......
When THEY use them against YOU.

And that is our FIRM position.
We are not monsters
We're moral people
And yet we have the strength to do this

-Shriekback, Nemesis
New Ditto. Cite please? When did I ever say anything like that?
New No...the statement was simple...
...even if CP walked in to the UN today and put a nuke on the table with Sadam's signature on it...there would be those here that would not accept that as evidence.

Sort of like what you were implying by implying that I was implying something ;)
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Nonsense.
You are confusing being unable to take at face value what the current administration says with being unable of being convinced that Saddam has WMD. I think he probably does have some of the stuff left that members of THE CURRENT US GOVERNMENT GAVE HIM in the late 1980's and the 90's almost up to the moment of the Gulf War.

And given their track record (lies to enrage the US population enough to support a war effort in 1990 and 1991) why should anyone believe Colon Powell, Rumsfeld, Cheney, etc.?

What was it Dubya said? "Fool me once .... shame on .... shame on you. ...............You fool me, cain't get fooled agin." or, for those with IQ's above 70, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
     Here we go. Evidence dump. - (marlowe) - (28)
         Return of old argument - (JayMehaffey)
         Just like I predicted. - (Brandioch)
         All the words - (marlowe) - (3)
             Just here is that "Rope-Limit" line NOW???? -NT - (folkert)
             But still, no physical evidence. -NT - (Brandioch) - (1)
                 I'm starting to worry about you. man. - (marlowe)
         Some pics from the briefing - (marlowe) - (3)
             What denials? - (Brandioch) - (2)
                 Those trucks were there to _________________________________ - (marlowe) - (1)
                     Drop off office furniture. - (Brandioch)
         I wouldn't bother with evidence. - (bepatient) - (17)
             You are a true believer. .... Remarkable. - (mmoffitt) - (12)
                 I said no such thing. - (bepatient) - (11)
                     Oh, I thought you implied there was "evidence". - (mmoffitt) - (10)
                         what I cant figger out is that you guys all agree we gave - (boxley) - (7)
                             Cite please? When did I ever say anything like that? - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                 So you will admit that some may remain? - (boxley) - (4)
                                     Was wanting to have the the crime? - (Brandioch) - (3)
                                         No, it isn't the usage either. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                             IMO you are right -NT - (boxley)
                                             And tomorrow is another day. - (Brandioch)
                             Ditto. Cite please? When did I ever say anything like that? -NT - (Brandioch)
                         No...the statement was simple... - (bepatient) - (1)
                             Nonsense. - (mmoffitt)
             I would like some evidence, or at least justification. - (jbrabeck) - (3)
                 We must kill their civilians! - (Brandioch) - (1)
                     Don't forget grinding children's heads beneath our boots. - (bepatient)
                 Re: I would like some evidence, or at least justification. - (bepatient)

Hey, it was good enough for Terry Pratchett.
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