Nope

Let him rant to the same level of audience as his "sponsor-paid / entertainment show" justifies. It is as legitimate to attack his funding by appealing to the cupidity of his funders as.. to boycott Nestle for its dissembling about infant formula sales tactics.

And if there actually is -finally- satiation amongst the aforementioned juonior dick-heads? and they tell the sponsor This Is so - that's the Murican Way of placing cupidity/$$ over any principles whatsoever. It's not even Astroturf: sponsors want to know how effective is their shill for driving more sheep to the Mall.

We should be compassionate though, like them Repubs and other Repos: if Rush loses lots of hours - maybe we can create a special Rush Forum at IWE, give him up to a megabyte a month of fulminations.. If he can type.

Reducing the spread of Rush is as legitimate an aim as - getting the Harris Ranch on I-5 to Clean Up, find real pasture for the McBurgers-on-hoof: standing around in their own shit for their entire lives. Have to keep car windows closed for miles.

Public service.

Ashton

Post #78,126 by Silverlock 1/30/03 4:38:29 PM Reply	Nope Just wondering if ascribing unamerican unpatriotic, communistic sentiments to protestors had any other rationale than the act of protesting. Hell, >some< cops are unamerican, unpatriotic communists. >Some< soccer moms are. >Some< radio personalities are. Rush didn't say >some< protestors. Beep's thoughtless defense of the vulgar pigboy is where the word >some< gets introduced. "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- George Bernard Shaw
Post #78,133 by boxley 1/30/03 4:46:20 PM Reply	So ANSWER is a pro American Organization? they are certainly the "some" that BP was talking about, and freedom has damn little to do with their agenda as reported. That is the equivelence of calling me a racists because I the Jesse the Jackson is a putz. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "The Mafia was preferable to the state, because it survived by providing services people actually wanted" Murray Rothbard
Post #78,135 by Silverlock 1/30/03 4:48:41 PM Reply	Careful there Bill You might end with the "King of non-sequiters" crown held michel merlin. "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- George Bernard Shaw
Post #78,136 by boxley 1/30/03 4:50:49 PM Reply	french godwin attempt ^^I^> will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "The Mafia was preferable to the state, because it survived by providing services people actually wanted" Murray Rothbard
Post #78,157 by deSitter 1/30/03 6:27:22 PM Reply	French Godwin Any mention of Descartes or the WWII surrender ends a thread. Any mention of both in the same post results in banishment. -drl
Post #78,158 by inthane-chan 1/30/03 6:29:05 PM Reply	Oops he mentioned both... DeSitter, consider yourself officially banned. :D "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
Post #78,241 by Silverlock 1/30/03 11:03:50 PM Reply	Nope again I was just trying to keep this thread from getting hijacked. Rush Limbaugh has stated that protestors are unamerican. I think that is sickening. I kind of like the fact that we can protest. Distrust of our rulers is built-in to the american soul. Sad that the distrust has so often been proven needful. Very slowly, Protestors are unamerican, unpatriotic communists. Do you agree with that statement? (Note, I did not say >some<.) "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- George Bernard Shaw
Post #78,249 by boxley 1/30/03 11:22:59 PM Reply	do I agree with YOUR statement, no what we are discussing is not thread hijacking but finger pointing. The start of the thread was an american trying to silence a critic (rush) my point is that act is as despicable as statements by Rush who is a stupid man with a large following. Again my quote is accurate (although badly misspelled) declaring me a racist because I think jesse the jackson is a putz. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "The Mafia was preferable to the state, because it survived by providing services people actually wanted" Murray Rothbard
Post #78,264 by Silverlock 1/30/03 11:46:56 PM Reply	No This is not about trying to silence a "critic". If you truly think Rush Limbaugh is just a "critic", I don't see any common ground to continue this discussion. "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- George Bernard Shaw
Post #78,268 by boxley 1/30/03 11:51:57 PM Reply	are they trying to silence rush? yes/no If he is not a critic describe what (in your view) he is? In my view he is a man who buys blocks of radio time and resells the time to advertisers while presenting a product which is geared to the yuppie dicklicks that have no real world experience and are afraid of everything. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "The Mafia was preferable to the state, because it survived by providing services people actually wanted" Murray Rothbard
Post #78,270 by Silverlock 1/30/03 11:59:35 PM Reply	Yes they are That is exactly what those citizens are attempting. After years of this creep, some have become fed up. You think they don't have the right to try? "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- George Bernard Shaw
Post #78,272 by boxley 1/31/03 12:02:54 AM Reply	I see so the first ammendment is selectively enforcd? will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "The Mafia was preferable to the state, because it survived by providing services people actually wanted" Murray Rothbard
Post #78,276 by Silverlock 1/31/03 12:05:38 AM Reply	I don't think you understand what it means Not if you can make that statement. "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- George Bernard Shaw
Post #78,284 by boxley 1/31/03 12:28:16 AM Reply	perhaps you would care to expound? You agreed that rush should be silenced. I think his speech is protected under the first ammendment. Am I misreading your position? thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "The Mafia was preferable to the state, because it survived by providing services people actually wanted" Murray Rothbard
Post #78,287 by imric 1/31/03 12:32:37 AM Reply	Everybody in the US has the right to be wrong... ...and an ass. In Rush's case, a BIIIIG ass. Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
Post #78,334 by Silverlock 1/31/03 8:52:29 AM Reply	Not only misreading my position, You don't seem to grasp the concept of free speech too well either. The first amendment comes into play when the government restricts speech. Citizens have free speech rights to complain about the speech of others. Rush is still free to spew his venom. I am free to tell his advertisers I will not purchase their wares while they enable his hateful speech. You are free to not understand the difference between a government restricting speech and citizens using free speech. "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- George Bernard Shaw
Post #78,337 by boxley 1/31/03 9:00:15 AM Reply	If you dont like the message, turn it off dont listen, dont attend Klan rallies if you dont like what they preach, you dont go to the local dept store and boycott their linen supply, you form a group that clearly shows the lies of the otherside. That is the Difference between me and the PC folks, I dont try to stifle your speech. PC on the other hand will use every means possible to stop a dissenting idea from being diseminated. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "The Mafia was preferable to the state, because it survived by providing services people actually wanted" Murray Rothbard
Post #78,340 by Silverlock 1/31/03 9:38:06 AM Reply	Yeah, right. "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- George Bernard Shaw
Post #78,342 by Ashton 1/31/03 9:52:28 AM Reply	Think of it as a public debate - Rush won't let you on his air to rebut (unless for a few seconds.. after you lied and said you wanted to agree). Timing is Everything, when the mouth-breathers are bein pumped up - short attention span and all. So instead, your rebuttal is given to the sponsor. As Murican as buyin your very own judge to get your criminal Corporation off on "self-policing" - exact same route as above. Me.
Post #78,344 by boxley 1/31/03 9:55:08 AM Reply	restarted debate in politics will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "The Mafia was preferable to the state, because it survived by providing services people actually wanted" Murray Rothbard
Post #78,349 by CRConrad 1/31/03 10:08:23 AM Reply	Listen, you nitwit, this is how it is: (new thread) Created as new thread #78348 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=78348\|Listen, you nitwit, this is how it is:] [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #78,303 by Ashton 1/31/03 2:10:52 AM Reply	Come off it, Box: "Silence" - HARDLY Let him rant to the same level of audience as his "sponsor-paid / entertainment show" justifies. It is as legitimate to attack his funding by appealing to the cupidity of his funders as.. to boycott Nestle for its dissembling about infant formula sales tactics. And if there actually is -finally- satiation amongst the aforementioned juonior dick-heads? and they tell the sponsor This Is so - that's the Murican Way of placing cupidity/$$ over any principles whatsoever. It's not even Astroturf: sponsors want to know how effective is their shill for driving more sheep to the Mall. We should be compassionate though, like them Repubs and other Repos: if Rush loses lots of hours - maybe we can create a special Rush Forum at IWE, give him up to a megabyte a month of fulminations.. If he can type. Reducing the spread of Rush is as legitimate an aim as - getting the Harris Ranch on I-5 to Clean Up, find real pasture for the McBurgers-on-hoof: standing around in their own shit for their entire lives. Have to keep car windows closed for miles. Public service. Ashton
Post #78,399 by jb4 1/31/03 12:17:28 PM Reply	The term "demagogue" comes to mind If he is not a critic describe what (in your view) he is? Yes, I think demagogue (the modern definition) fits quite nicely (ObAdHominem: Which is no small feat, considering how hard it is to get anything to fit that man... :-) ) jb4 "They lead. They don't manage. The carrot always wins over the stick. Ask your horse. You can lead your horse to water, but you can't manage him to drink." Richard Kerr, United Technologies Corporation, 1990
Post #78,400 by boxley 1/31/03 12:20:06 PM Reply	demagogue, hardly he's not that good will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "The Mafia was preferable to the state, because it survived by providing services people actually wanted" Murray Rothbard
Post #78,134 by imric 1/30/03 4:46:56 PM 1/30/03 5:00:29 PM Reply	Yah. Agreed. I'm not a big fan of his, to say the least - but the point stands - is it a defense of what he said, or criticising the 'targeting'? (geez, gotta read the 'preview' more before typing!) Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win. Edited by imric Jan. 30, 2003, 05:00:29 PM EST Expand All History
Post #78,219 by mmoffitt 1/30/03 9:39:55 PM Reply	Oh, come on. You're not that naive. Don't you remember what the pResident said? "Yur either fer us, er agin us."

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