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Post #72,592
by JayMehaffey
1/4/03 11:11:04 PM
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New Re: right to shelter food?
Actually I think claiming either of those things goes to far also. What I was trying to point out tought, is that what is and what is not a basic right is a complex and open question.

Take the right to bear arms, the right to have privacy, the right to live without government interference, or the right to medical care. There are lots of things that people claim as rights or claim are not rights. Why some and not others?

The way you put the question made it seem that you where taking the rights we have in the US as being the basic rights, making the statement that the US meets those requirments a bit of circular logic. If you want to judge if the US meets the requirements of supporting basic rights, you need to better define what they are.

Jay
Post #72,596
by boxley
1/4/03 11:16:55 PM
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New As defined by the bill of rights and ammendments to the
constitution. In America anyway. Any rights not implicitly granted by the feds or the states are held by the people. However the crux comes when rights held by the people(individually) are requested by preassure groups to be paid for collectively by the government. This is where all social conflict in America comes from.
thanx,
bill
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]

You think that you can trust the government to look after your rights? ask an Indian
     What constitutes legitimacy of a political regime? - (marlowe) - (19) - Jan. 4, 2003, 02:48:54 PM EST
         Wrong on all counts - (boxley) - (5) - Jan. 4, 2003, 03:16:03 PM EST
             Full Agreement - (deSitter) - Jan. 4, 2003, 03:37:05 PM EST
             Recognition by which others? - (marlowe) - (3) - Jan. 8, 2003, 10:20:44 AM EST
                 Well present your list of legitimate governments - (boxley) - (2) - Jan. 8, 2003, 11:05:56 AM EST
                     Peer review has a similar problem. - (marlowe) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2003, 06:14:41 PM EST
                         of course reality is not a democracy, that is why Saddam is - (boxley) - Jan. 8, 2003, 06:38:37 PM EST
         You are a result of public education at its finest. - (Brandioch) - (6) - Jan. 4, 2003, 04:43:46 PM EST
             I think he is a highschool history teacher :-) -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 4, 2003, 05:03:14 PM EST
             legitimate regimes - (rcareaga) - (4) - Jan. 4, 2003, 08:55:25 PM EST
                 the amrican citizens in this forum were not all born ins - (boxley) - (2) - Jan. 4, 2003, 11:00:11 PM EST
                     At least 3. You, Arkadiy, and me. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Jan. 5, 2003, 12:02:54 PM EST
                         Re: At least 3. You, Arkadiy, and me. - (rcareaga) - Jan. 5, 2003, 06:17:14 PM EST
                 Who needs drug testing, - (Arkadiy) - Jan. 9, 2003, 03:16:08 PM EST
         Actually quite arguable - (JayMehaffey) - (3) - Jan. 4, 2003, 05:56:54 PM EST
             right to shelter food? - (boxley) - (2) - Jan. 4, 2003, 06:43:23 PM EST
                 Re: right to shelter food? - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - Jan. 4, 2003, 11:11:04 PM EST
                     As defined by the bill of rights and ammendments to the - (boxley) - Jan. 4, 2003, 11:16:55 PM EST
         Definition divorced from purpose, again? - (tseliot) - Jan. 8, 2003, 01:58:47 PM EST
         How about democratically elected leaders? Oops... - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 9, 2003, 11:49:49 AM EST

And it's like that.
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