Wrong on all counts

Post #72,501 by boxley 1/4/03 3:16:03 PM Reply	Wrong on all counts "legitimacy of a political regime" exists only as recognition as such by others. In 1916 UK met all of your requirements for all of Ireland and was completely out of pace with the facts on the ground. The Taliban were almost legit and would have been legit if Iran had accepted them. Only Pakistan and Saudi recognised them as the rulers. NK is legitimate because they exist and no one has the required will to remove the regime. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] You think that you can trust the government to look after your rights? ask an Indian
Post #72,505 by deSitter 1/4/03 3:37:05 PM Reply	Full Agreement Marlowe would make an excellent dictator - he already has a plan for totalitarianism in hand with his obsessive definitionizing. -drl
Post #73,363 by marlowe 1/8/03 10:20:44 AM Reply	Recognition by which others? By other "legitimate" regimes? Who magically legitimizes those, then? Seems to me you've got an infinite regress. Your code won't run. You'll get a stack overflow. Relativism eats its own tail again. Whether anyone has the required will to remove Kim Jong-Il's regime remains to be seen. But a failure of nerve on the world's part is no credit to his regime. I am a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy of one. Where's Abdul Rahman Yasin? The reason I don't budge is I'm waiting for you to catch up. [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html] [link\|http://pascal.rockford.com:8888/SSK@jbf~W~x49RjZfyJwplqwurpNmg0PAgM/marlowe//\|http://pascal.rockfo...mg0PAgM/marlowe//]
Post #73,372 by boxley 1/8/03 11:05:56 AM Reply	Well present your list of legitimate governments and all of us on the board will choose collectively to recognise them or not. After we choose you will be forced to accept any regimes whether you like them or consider them legitimate or not. That is called peer review. On governmental scales it works the same way. Do you accept the legitimacy of England and France? The current owners of the UK were chosen by a mad dog who sliced off the head of his wife because he couldnt shoot male sperm. That is legitimate? Or is it legitimate because of historical cohesiveness? Geopolitics is not for the narrow minded. It is often holding ones nose to acheive long term goals. The problem is American cant think past 6 yesrs of the election cycle. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] You think that you can trust the government to look after your rights? ask an Indian
Post #73,482 by marlowe 1/8/03 6:14:41 PM Reply	Peer review has a similar problem. Who gets to choose the peers? Somehow the notion that this particular group alone has some special authority to declare a government legitimate seems farfetched to me. A regime either satisifes the conditions of a definition (such as mine) or it doesn't. You may have your opinion, I may have mine, but don't conflate our opinions with the things the opinions are regarding. Reality is not a democracy. I've offered a definition that makes good moral sense to me. You've offered, um, it's not clear just what it is you have offered. I am a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy of one. Where's Abdul Rahman Yasin? The reason I don't budge is I'm waiting for you to catch up. [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html] [link\|http://pascal.rockford.com:8888/SSK@jbf~W~x49RjZfyJwplqwurpNmg0PAgM/marlowe//\|http://pascal.rockfo...mg0PAgM/marlowe//]
Post #73,486 by boxley 1/8/03 6:38:37 PM Reply	of course reality is not a democracy, that is why Saddam is legitimate. Hoisted on your own petard.hiss.... zing. hooked and landed. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] You think that you can trust the government to look after your rights? ask an Indian

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