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Post #68,470
by CRConrad
12/12/02 5:56:07 PM
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New Yeah, but *why* should that make anyone "feel sick"?!?
The alternative, if those jobs *don't* get exported to India, is that some *Indian* programmer goes without a job, in stead of an American one.

Considering the relative economic strengths of the two countries, and the relative strengths of their social security systems(*), that would be probably be even *more* bad for the Indian programmer than the converse situation (and current topic) is for the American one.

So, shouldn't any reasonably compassionate person be *glad* that those jobs are being exported...?


(*): Wow -- *finally* some place that I think the US "Social Security" system might actually beat!
   Christian R. Conrad
Mechanisation
As our souls are slowly stolen
The wheels of progress keep steamrolling
Mechanisation melts our minds
To drive the furnace that drives us blind. -- [link|http://www.vergenet.net/~conrad/poetry/mechanisation.html|© Conrad Parker, 1993]
Post #68,612
by lincoln
12/13/02 10:22:00 AM
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New Riddle me this, Batman:

The alternative, if those jobs *don't* get exported to India, is that some *Indian* programmer goes without a job, in stead of an American one.



So, can you name for me ANY company in India that has laid off workers and moved jobs to America, just to improve the bottom line, even just a wee bit???
Can you? Didn't think so. But its happening in America more and more every day. If not India, then Mexico, China, Viet Nam, etc., etc. etc.

The dickheads controlling companies today see employees as raw commodities to be used, abused and spit out, ignoring all skills, experience, THE OVERALL VALUE they bring to the company, so that a few bucks can be saved in the annual report. That way the bigwigs can get raises, bigger bonuses, and more grants of options, while the very people who could be their customers AREN'T, because they're UNEMPLOYED. People without jobs don't buy stuff.

lincoln
"Four score and seven years ago, I had a better sig"
     this will make you sick - (lincoln) - (34) - Dec. 11, 2002, 05:10:38 PM EST
         Why should it??? -NT - (CRConrad) - (12) - Dec. 11, 2002, 05:36:26 PM EST
             Because - (lincoln) - (11) - Dec. 12, 2002, 05:47:58 PM EST
                 Yeah, but *why* should that make anyone "feel sick"?!? - (CRConrad) - (1) - Dec. 12, 2002, 05:56:07 PM EST
                     Riddle me this, Batman: - (lincoln) - Dec. 13, 2002, 10:22:00 AM EST
                 Alternatively: Isn't that what your system is all about? - (CRConrad) - (8) - Dec. 12, 2002, 06:23:25 PM EST
                     Watiaminnit - (drewk) - (4) - Dec. 13, 2002, 09:14:46 AM EST
                         Chicken / egg? - (Ashton) - (2) - Dec. 13, 2002, 04:20:12 PM EST
                             That doesn't follow - (drewk) - (1) - Dec. 13, 2002, 05:06:50 PM EST
                                 Bingo, I think too. - (Ashton) - Dec. 13, 2002, 07:01:43 PM EST
                         Yeah, OK, so I may have mischaracterised the problem. - (CRConrad) - Dec. 14, 2002, 07:15:12 PM EST
                     {cackle guffaw} Ulp. - (Ashton) - (2) - Dec. 13, 2002, 04:45:53 PM EST
                         Alas, it ain't no better here. - (CRConrad) - (1) - Dec. 14, 2002, 06:21:15 PM EST
                             Well then: ___We Will All Go Together When We Go - (Ashton) - Dec. 14, 2002, 08:18:17 PM EST
         Legislation - (deSitter) - (11) - Dec. 11, 2002, 05:38:36 PM EST
             Not likely in a Global Economy. - (Andrew Grygus) - (10) - Dec. 12, 2002, 03:08:21 AM EST
                 Heh.. The "Boys From Brazil" ___Study HVAC -NT - (Ashton) - Dec. 12, 2002, 03:53:03 AM EST
                 Re: Not likely in a Global Economy. - (deSitter) - (8) - Dec. 12, 2002, 10:03:35 AM EST
                     Here's a real solution. - (inthane-chan) - (5) - Dec. 12, 2002, 11:05:57 AM EST
                         One other change - (drewk) - Dec. 12, 2002, 11:31:56 AM EST
                         That would work - but . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Dec. 12, 2002, 11:38:12 AM EST
                             Like I said... - (inthane-chan) - (2) - Dec. 12, 2002, 11:48:47 AM EST
                                 So what you're really advocating is... - (jb4) - (1) - Dec. 12, 2002, 02:25:18 PM EST
                                     Naw. - (inthane-chan) - Dec. 12, 2002, 02:49:03 PM EST
                     Yes, unions were extremely effective . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Dec. 12, 2002, 11:39:43 AM EST
                         Re: Yes, unions were extremely effective . . . - (deSitter) - Dec. 12, 2002, 09:23:59 PM EST
         Sick? No, pleased that other companies are doing it - (wharris2) - Dec. 12, 2002, 12:44:00 AM EST
         Same thing happened to the clothing industry - (orion) - Dec. 12, 2002, 08:17:40 AM EST
         Yeah - (tuberculosis) - (6) - Dec. 12, 2002, 09:13:31 AM EST
             So, tell us: Which one is it? -NT - (CRConrad) - (4) - Dec. 12, 2002, 09:42:17 AM EST
                 Panama - Bocas del Toro -NT - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Dec. 12, 2002, 10:17:39 AM EST
                     UM "Because it's ALREADY been illegally attacked by the US"? -NT - (CRConrad) - (2) - Dec. 12, 2002, 11:39:46 AM EST
                         Plant a teak farm - pay no taxes for 20 years. -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Dec. 12, 2002, 04:18:46 PM EST
                             Thank Gawd - (Ashton) - Dec. 12, 2002, 04:51:47 PM EST
             Not a bad idea -NT - (deSitter) - Dec. 12, 2002, 10:02:21 AM EST

If the people speak and the king doesn't listen, there is something wrong with the king. If the king acts precipitously and the people say nothing, something is wrong with the people.
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