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Post #60,113
by mmoffitt
10/29/02 7:50:39 PM
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New Wasn't Carnahan also in a King Air about this time 2yrs ago?
Post #60,115
by deSitter
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10/29/02 8:21:42 PM
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New Re: Wasn't Carnahan also in a King Air
No, Cessna 335.

I do remember the night - pea soup at ground level. Not cold enough for ice to be an issue.

The artificial horizon failed - with no ground reference and no stars, they were flying blind and without orientation information other than that provided by the inner ear. The thinking is, the pilot (his son) maneuvered the plane into a stall attitude and could not recover from the resulting spin.

I would have rigged some kind of plumb bob from the cockpit ceiling to act as a direction indicator.
-drl
Post #60,207
by mmoffitt
10/30/02 11:25:18 AM
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New Did both AI's fail?
I should look up the NTSB report on this. Seems like there was an article about the accident in Plane & Pilot or some other flying mag. I've read about several IMC accidents and I start wondering if my plans to pursue an instrument rating next year are well founded. It must be hard to make a "no-go" decision if you've been instrument rated for a while and are used to flying in true IMC conditions. Right now, the go/no-go choice for me is easy (if it ain't VFR minimums, I ain't goin'), but I suppose it's gotta be harder to decide against going w/some IMC flying time under your belt.

Thanks fo the info,
Mikem
Post #60,210
by deSitter
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10/30/02 11:36:15 AM
10/30/02 11:40:16 AM
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New Re: Did both AI's fail?
That's the thinking - he radioed in problems with his 8-ball, stated he would try to use the co-pilot's, then asked for a vector to VFR conditions - shortly afterward radar contact was lost.

If I were you, I'd get in the habit of tacking up a St. Christopher medal on a fine chain :)

As a philosophical issue, I can't see the point in flying IFR for recreation!
-drl
Expand Edited by deSitter Oct. 30, 2002, 11:40:16 AM EST
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     Senator Wellstone from Minnesota dies in plane crash - (admin) - (33) - Oct. 25, 2002, 04:25:10 PM EDT
         More than sad.. - (Ashton) - (5) - Oct. 25, 2002, 07:49:45 PM EDT
             yup look what carnahan gave us -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Oct. 25, 2002, 07:52:47 PM EDT
                 Re: yup look what carnahan gave us - (deSitter) - Oct. 25, 2002, 09:46:28 PM EDT
                 Or did you mean - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 25, 2002, 09:47:38 PM EDT
                     Would ashcroft been appointed if Carnahan had not died? - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 25, 2002, 09:58:09 PM EDT
                         Sorry - (deSitter) - Oct. 25, 2002, 10:03:49 PM EDT
         He wrote a book - (Ashton) - Oct. 26, 2002, 04:04:07 AM EDT
         Too convenient. - (tuberculosis) - (25) - Oct. 26, 2002, 04:04:50 PM EDT
             Yes.. the unstated Question, nowadays not even silly.. :( -NT - (Ashton) - (7) - Oct. 26, 2002, 04:52:26 PM EDT
                 I don't think so. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Oct. 26, 2002, 05:07:29 PM EDT
                     Agreed that is far more likely. - (Ashton) - Oct. 26, 2002, 06:30:23 PM EDT
                     Re: I don't think so. - (deSitter) - (4) - Oct. 26, 2002, 07:41:05 PM EDT
                         Wasn't Carnahan also in a King Air about this time 2yrs ago? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Oct. 29, 2002, 07:50:39 PM EST
                             Re: Wasn't Carnahan also in a King Air - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 29, 2002, 08:21:42 PM EST
                                 Did both AI's fail? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 30, 2002, 11:25:18 AM EST
                                     Re: Did both AI's fail? - (deSitter) - Oct. 30, 2002, 11:40:16 AM EST
             If you want to get paranoid - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - Oct. 26, 2002, 08:45:09 PM EDT
                 Re: If you want to get paranoid - (deSitter) - Oct. 27, 2002, 12:05:06 AM EDT
             Consider the politics - (kmself) - (8) - Oct. 27, 2002, 12:17:52 AM EDT
                 It looks like the politically fair thing will happen - (boxley) - Oct. 27, 2002, 12:37:40 AM EDT
                 Saddest Thing - (deSitter) - (6) - Oct. 27, 2002, 01:41:40 AM EDT
                     yabbut a very liberal weasel so status quo is achieved -NT - (boxley) - (5) - Oct. 27, 2002, 09:33:30 AM EST
                         Ah.. so this guy represented what you deem - (Ashton) - (4) - Oct. 27, 2002, 06:38:53 PM EST
                             eh, doc called him a weasel I just further defined it and - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 27, 2002, 07:08:14 PM EST
                                 Oh is that all.. -NT - (Ashton) - (2) - Oct. 27, 2002, 07:23:09 PM EST
                                     Re: Oh is that all.. - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 27, 2002, 10:42:39 PM EST
                                         Mondale ain't Wellstone. - (Ashton) - Oct. 28, 2002, 07:15:34 AM EST
             You're not alone: - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 27, 2002, 02:26:13 PM EST
                 wanna bet he can explain why missile defense cant work :-) - (boxley) - Oct. 27, 2002, 05:23:39 PM EST
             Add'l links -- prior "assassination" incident, "hunted man" - (kmself) - (3) - Oct. 27, 2002, 05:59:42 PM EST
                 Democrat professor w/ MS - model for West Wing's Bartlett??? -NT - (CRConrad) - (2) - Oct. 28, 2002, 03:22:31 AM EST
                     Heh.. maybe - (Ashton) - Oct. 28, 2002, 07:26:30 AM EST
                     Re: Democrat professor. - (a6l6e6x) - Oct. 28, 2002, 10:08:48 PM EST

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