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by jlalexander
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9/17/02 1:58:34 PM
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New Re: Doh!
Yeah, and most of our senior staff here can handle having more then one application open.

Unfortunately, we've gotten ourselves into a situation where we have alot of legacy developers that have a very, very limited skill set and ability. Over the years, they've attempted to mentor them, but unsuccessfully.

Now, we're dealing with these issues when attempting to migrate away from VBScript to C#, from ASP to .NET, etc... we're growing up, and some of our more junior staff can't.

Very interesting predicament to be in.

Personally, I say trim the fat. But, again, I'm not the CTO (or even a manager) around here. So, meanwhile, my back hurts from having to carry them.

Thanks for the link, Scott! That looks to be a great application to bring up. :)


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Post #52,158
by tuberculosis
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9/18/02 3:48:57 AM
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New I'm in the same fix
This company is 3 years old, has some multi-megabuck accounts, and has a web app written in ColdFusion on windows with vss and all the other lame tools that is (not so) slowly collapsing under its own weight.

My comrade and I are here to:

1) Redesign the database schema (why? I mean, VARCHAR2's make great foreign keys - right?)
2) Rebuild a very complicated module using WebObjects
3) Build a standard widget set in WebObjects
4) Train the developers in basic Java, OO thinking, and modern open source tools
5) Figure out how to move a fair chunk of development to Poland where we also have to do 4

We'll see how the training goes...
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     Build/Release/Promote Process - (jlalexander) - (27) - Sept. 13, 2002, 10:42:19 AM EDT
         Re: Build/Release/Promote Process - (admin) - (3) - Sept. 13, 2002, 11:38:56 AM EDT
             Procedures? Vee don't neet no steenkin' procedures! - (drewk) - Sept. 13, 2002, 12:30:46 PM EDT
             I'm in an extremely large and structured environment.... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Sept. 13, 2002, 03:22:42 PM EDT
                 Re: I'm in an extremely large and structured environment.... - (admin) - Sept. 13, 2002, 03:28:42 PM EDT
         build a usable process, get buy in and enforce it - (boxley) - (7) - Sept. 13, 2002, 12:40:03 PM EDT
             How do you do that in a small shop? - (drewk) - (6) - Sept. 13, 2002, 01:42:12 PM EDT
                 one person might do all 5 - (boxley) - (5) - Sept. 13, 2002, 03:36:35 PM EDT
                     Probably - (drewk) - (4) - Sept. 13, 2002, 04:00:58 PM EDT
                         well you could ]:-> - (boxley) - (3) - Sept. 13, 2002, 06:18:37 PM EDT
                             Like we haven't thought of that - (drewk) - (2) - Sept. 16, 2002, 10:21:56 AM EDT
                                 you mean you couldnt archive 1-5000 - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 16, 2002, 11:49:00 AM EDT
                                     Too many things would have to change - (drewk) - Sept. 16, 2002, 01:36:50 PM EDT
         Re: Build/Release/Promote Process - (jlalexander) - Sept. 16, 2002, 10:19:49 AM EDT
         What Scott said - (tuberculosis) - (13) - Aug. 21, 2007, 12:46:12 PM EDT
             Re: What Scott said - (wharris2) - (2) - Sept. 17, 2002, 11:15:14 AM EDT
                 I've heard good things about MKS - (admin) - Sept. 17, 2002, 11:17:21 AM EDT
                 ClearCase - (tuberculosis) - Sept. 18, 2002, 03:39:02 AM EDT
             Re: What Scott said - (jlalexander) - (8) - Sept. 17, 2002, 11:26:14 AM EDT
                 What Scott said this time - (admin) - Sept. 17, 2002, 11:30:29 AM EDT
                 Try TKCVS - (drewk) - (5) - Sept. 17, 2002, 11:36:19 AM EDT
                     It's not the GUI he needs... - (admin) - (3) - Sept. 17, 2002, 11:38:40 AM EDT
                         Doh! - (drewk) - (2) - Sept. 17, 2002, 12:14:53 PM EDT
                             Re: Doh! - (jlalexander) - (1) - Sept. 17, 2002, 01:58:34 PM EDT
                                 I'm in the same fix - (tuberculosis) - Sept. 18, 2002, 03:48:57 AM EDT
                     Subversion - (tuberculosis) - Sept. 18, 2002, 03:41:20 AM EDT
                 Oh, and one other thing - (drewk) - Sept. 17, 2002, 11:39:04 AM EDT
             Visual Source Safe... - (ChrisR) - Sept. 17, 2002, 11:30:03 AM EDT

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