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Post #51,811
by mmoffitt
9/15/02 1:55:06 PM
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New Yes I have kids. And you're 180 off.
"Don't touch that! It's Daddy's; Go Play in YOUR room; That's your sister's, put it back; This is Mommy and Daddy's room and these are OUR things, not yours; etc. ad nauseum. No, not exactly those words, but you get the idea.

A child is born w/out a sense of greed. We strove to prevent saying those types of things and it was not until my oldest started preschool that she coined her own word "mys" for private ownership. We hadn't used "mine, my, yours, ours, etc." in our discourse with her, but send her to preschool with a bunch of good capitalists and the first thing she learns is "mine". Swell.

Don't buy it? Take a 1 year old and show him/her a ball or doll or toy. They look at it, they play with it. Then what happens? They hand it to you. Sure, after a time, they reach out for it - THEY WANT YOU TO BE GENEROUS LIKE THEY ARE. THEY WANT YOU TO SHARE ALSO.

We do not teach them to share, they teach us. We teach them greed. And for arguably good reason - our nation is founded upon it.
Post #51,813
by boxley
9/15/02 2:09:34 PM
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New not in this house
my rule is if your not breaking it or killing youe sibling with it I wont say anything. They developed greed at about 2 and I am still working on the 10yo the 13yo gets it the 8 sort of gets it but the 4 is just like the 10 "Its mine" even if it originally belonged to someone else "Its mine now"
let me lookup some physc links it is early, practically from birth and has good reasoning from a specie survival viewpoint. The examples you gave are pretty typical of a white family though.
thanx,
bill
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qui mori didicit servire dedidicit
Post #51,818
by mmoffitt
9/15/02 3:27:43 PM
9/15/02 3:29:53 PM
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New Hard to eliminate bias.
At age 2 to 4 do they honestly "lose their sense of communal ownership" or is that the age at which most capitalist parents tire - (i.e. it's easier to say "don't touch... not yours" than it is to try to explain how item X could be broken and no one would then be able to enjoy it)? I think the latter, notwithstanding psych demogougary.

edit: replace 'day' w/ 'say'
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Post #51,829
by boxley
9/15/02 5:35:40 PM
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New I'll lookup some stuff and start a separate thread in open
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qui mori didicit servire dedidicit
     beaurocracy killed the revolution and trotsky(typo) - (boxley) - (23) - Sept. 7, 2002, 11:02:25 PM EDT
         Concur. - (Ashton) - Sept. 8, 2002, 01:39:35 AM EDT
         A little more... - (screamer) - Sept. 10, 2002, 11:34:26 AM EDT
         There is one thing I will never understand. - (mmoffitt) - (14) - Sept. 10, 2002, 09:05:12 PM EDT
             ya gotta be able to connect to the proles - (boxley) - (2) - Sept. 10, 2002, 09:12:24 PM EDT
                 So many of them vote for an Oil Baron? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 10, 2002, 09:29:17 PM EDT
                     whats lower than whale come lawyers and politicians - (boxley) - Sept. 10, 2002, 10:45:35 PM EDT
             Adlai and well before.. - (Ashton) - Sept. 10, 2002, 10:28:48 PM EDT
             May be able to shed a little light... - (screamer) - (9) - Sept. 11, 2002, 12:05:19 PM EDT
                 excellent short story, linked in reviews -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 11, 2002, 12:29:38 PM EDT
                 You just did it again. - (mmoffitt) - (7) - Sept. 13, 2002, 07:10:08 PM EDT
                     Greed is inbred and must be unlearned - (boxley) - (6) - Sept. 13, 2002, 10:03:52 PM EDT
                         Partially true IMO - (Ashton) - (1) - Sept. 13, 2002, 10:20:26 PM EDT
                             wrong column but it is easier to stuff a camel etc - (boxley) - Sept. 14, 2002, 12:13:00 AM EDT
                         Yes I have kids. And you're 180 off. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Sept. 15, 2002, 01:55:06 PM EDT
                             not in this house - (boxley) - (2) - Sept. 15, 2002, 02:09:34 PM EDT
                                 Hard to eliminate bias. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 15, 2002, 03:29:53 PM EDT
                                     I'll lookup some stuff and start a separate thread in open -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 15, 2002, 05:35:40 PM EDT
         video killed the radio star -NT - (bepatient) - (5) - Sept. 10, 2002, 10:30:25 PM EDT
             tell that to stern rush and bbtls -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Sept. 10, 2002, 10:46:47 PM EDT
                 Only reason they get away with it... - (inthane-chan) - (3) - Sept. 11, 2002, 12:24:51 PM EDT
                     Its not shock, in the case of bbtls - (boxley) - (2) - Sept. 11, 2002, 12:31:50 PM EDT
                         Who is bbtls -NT - (deSitter) - (1) - Sept. 11, 2002, 01:21:41 PM EDT
                             link provided to bbtls - (boxley) - Sept. 11, 2002, 02:05:40 PM EDT

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