Greed is inbred and must be unlearned

Post #51,706 by boxley 9/13/02 10:03:52 PM Reply	Greed is inbred and must be unlearned fer cryin out loud you have kids, unless they are totally abnormal at the age of 18 months to 4 years they get possesive and wont share. That is not learned thats inbred. You have to teach them to share. To blame capitalism for a kid who poops his pants instead of using the toilet because he doesnt want to let go is unadulterated horseshit. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/Resume.html\|skill set] [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/index.html\|boxley's home page] qui mori didicit servire dedidicit
Post #51,709 by Ashton 9/13/02 10:20:26 PM Reply	Partially true IMO That is - yes, at ~2 the kid has progressed from, "I am the whole world" through various stages, including, "I want.. I want.." (I can't find the whole metaphor just now, which lists 0 --> thru 'adult' in such stages; I think it's the simplest, testable model I ever saw re human development). I'd slot capitalism then, as - an attitude about other people and about life, which is fixated at this infantile level. That is the place where 'nature' is kept retarded by 'nurture'. And yes, retards can reach rather hoary ages in physical years, without growing a bit. Esp. if everybody's doin it. Take Billy, for example of this sort of retardation in growth towards adulthood. Ashton
Post #51,718 by boxley 9/14/02 12:13:00 AM Reply	wrong column but it is easier to stuff a camel etc because "insert Carlin" of STUFF. Me I have lots of stuff, the stuff I get attached to is human. That makes me an anamoly. I would happily give away all my STUFF but if you ever think you can TAKE it WW3 (and yer momma 2). That is why communism can never work, likewise capitalism. If STUFF is involved only SEX DRUGS and religion can get you to part with it. No if Marx had instituted whorehouses where volunteers only swapped sex for STUFF and local stores where you could exchange STUFF for drugs and wrapped it all in religion you would ALMOST have a going concern like ancient greece where in Sparta the practice of phalanxes was called fucking and the delphi oracle would give you a bj before telling your fortune, what goes around comes around. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/Resume.html\|skill set] [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/index.html\|boxley's home page] qui mori didicit servire dedidicit
Post #51,811 by mmoffitt 9/15/02 1:55:06 PM Reply	Yes I have kids. And you're 180 off. "Don't touch that! It's Daddy's; Go Play in YOUR room; That's your sister's, put it back; This is Mommy and Daddy's room and these are OUR things, not yours; etc. ad nauseum. No, not exactly those words, but you get the idea. A child is born w/out a sense of greed. We strove to prevent saying those types of things and it was not until my oldest started preschool that she coined her own word "mys" for private ownership. We hadn't used "mine, my, yours, ours, etc." in our discourse with her, but send her to preschool with a bunch of good capitalists and the first thing she learns is "mine". Swell. Don't buy it? Take a 1 year old and show him/her a ball or doll or toy. They look at it, they play with it. Then what happens? They hand it to you. Sure, after a time, they reach out for it - THEY WANT YOU TO BE GENEROUS LIKE THEY ARE. THEY WANT YOU TO SHARE ALSO. We do not teach them to share, they teach us. We teach them greed. And for arguably good reason - our nation is founded upon it.
Post #51,813 by boxley 9/15/02 2:09:34 PM Reply	not in this house my rule is if your not breaking it or killing youe sibling with it I wont say anything. They developed greed at about 2 and I am still working on the 10yo the 13yo gets it the 8 sort of gets it but the 4 is just like the 10 "Its mine" even if it originally belonged to someone else "Its mine now" let me lookup some physc links it is early, practically from birth and has good reasoning from a specie survival viewpoint. The examples you gave are pretty typical of a white family though. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] qui mori didicit servire dedidicit
Post #51,818 by mmoffitt 9/15/02 3:27:43 PM 9/15/02 3:29:53 PM Reply	Hard to eliminate bias. At age 2 to 4 do they honestly "lose their sense of communal ownership" or is that the age at which most capitalist parents tire - (i.e. it's easier to say "don't touch... not yours" than it is to try to explain how item X could be broken and no one would then be able to enjoy it)? I think the latter, notwithstanding psych demogougary. edit: replace 'day' w/ 'say' Edited by mmoffitt Sept. 15, 2002, 03:29:53 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #51,829 by boxley 9/15/02 5:35:40 PM Reply	I'll lookup some stuff and start a separate thread in open will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] qui mori didicit servire dedidicit

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