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New Staking this prediction
Greenwald makes much of the question, "How could multiple sources get the date wrong in the same way?"

My bet is this was a setup. Let's come back in a week and see if I'm right.
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Drew
New that was his unstated point I believe
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
New Must've taken a while to get to it, I "tl;dr"-ed about halfway through
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And now that I've gone back and read the rest ...

He's saying that the MSM (he might as well use the acronym, that article could have been an opinion piece on Fox) consistently err in the same direction. What I'm saying is that this wasn't a Democratic actor trying to spread a story to discredit Trump and the media erring in not verifying it, as Greenwald says. This was Project Veritas or someone like them trying to discredit the MSM by feeding them something juicy yet easily disproved.

As for his actual claim - that the media consistently err in the direction of suspecting Russia of all kinds of things - I think there's a non-zero chance that Russia is actually doing far more things than we've heard of, that a solid majority of what makes the national news outlets is likely true, and that the stories that are "debunked" are more often errors of excessive credulity than intentional fabrication. As opposed to the steady stream of transparent lies coming from the Trump administration for the last year, and Fox for the last decade.
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Drew
Expand Edited by drook Dec. 10, 2017, 09:20:27 PM EST
New Nope, not a good read.
Greenwald used to be a good read, years ago.

Ever since he threw is lot in with Assange, delivered Snowden to Putin, and started carrying water for Trump, his writing has gone south along with his honour.

As for the main point of his histrionics, "How could they all get it so wrong?!?":
  • It's a matter of misreading part of a date, mistaking the 14th for the 4th;

  • Which all of two news outlets got wrong in the same way;

  • When they both desperately wanted to interpret it that way;

  • And wasn't there something about how this was from e-mails read aloud over the phone at least at some stage?
Fucking wonder the meeja doesn't get a lot more wrong just by honest mistake, far as I can see.

All in all, Greenwald has become that kind of weird ostensibly-leftist scold of all things "establishment" who just so happen to spout all the exact same talking points as the most repugnant alt-or-not-right wingnut.

(Kind of like BOxley on that very last point.)
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Christian R. Conrad
Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi

(Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
New Yeah, they didn't misread anything
Someone - apparently a couple of someones - read these emails to reporters over the phone. The reporters trusted those couple of someones and ran with it. Then after it went out someone came up with the original document and started shouting, "See! They lied!"

I bring up Project Veritas because this looks like their MO, and if I'm right, then whoever got burned should do the same thing the Post did and out their sources.
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Drew
     on fake news - (boxley) - (5)
         Staking this prediction - (drook) - (2)
             that was his unstated point I believe -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                 Must've taken a while to get to it, I "tl;dr"-ed about halfway through - (drook)
         Nope, not a good read. - (CRConrad) - (1)
             Yeah, they didn't misread anything - (drook)

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