Google is growing crypto

Post #414,941 by drook 10/28/16 11:53:35 AM 10/28/16 11:53:35 AM Reply	Google is growing crypto http://arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2016/10/google-ai-neural-network-cryptography/ -- Drew
Post #414,948 by a6l6e6x 10/28/16 2:06:08 PM 10/28/16 2:06:08 PM Reply	Interesting! This approach is not based on the usual computability difficulty arguments. But, there's in this case the question of how appropriate the eavesdropper talents are. It could be there's another approach to do the decryption. Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov
Post #414,949 by drook 10/28/16 2:10:56 PM 10/28/16 2:10:56 PM Reply	I like that it's orthogonal to other approaches It's like when they try to invent a new language for a science fiction species. It's hard not to base it on existing concepts of grammar. When trying to invent crypto, how do you avoid basing it on known concepts of math? This at least presents the chance at something genuinely original. What I think this could lead to is rapidly changing encryption schemes. Instead of trying to come up with something unbreakable, just keep coming up with unique schemes. Rotate them every week and by the time one is broken there's already a new one. -- Drew
Post #414,950 by a6l6e6x 10/28/16 2:16:10 PM 10/28/16 2:16:10 PM Reply	Yep, it is an inventive approach. Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov
Post #414,958 by static 10/28/16 5:59:44 PM 10/28/16 5:59:44 PM Reply	They should scale it up: multiple Eves cracking the same message. Just Add Story http://justaddstory.wordpress.com/
Post #414,963 by drook 10/29/16 9:05:30 AM 10/29/16 9:05:30 AM Reply	How would that work in the wild? For testing/training they know the result and they can feed back into Eve whether a round was successful. In the real world, how would they know? Each round would have to manually verified, which would make that process orders of magnitude slower than the process of creating the crypto. -- Drew
Post #414,976 by Ashton 10/30/16 5:58:22 AM 10/30/16 5:58:22 AM Reply	With you re such genuine innovation (another word perhaps doomed to casual over-use). Still recall a Star Trek/Next-Gen episode, in which the antagonists spoke only in metaphor [!!] and how artfully they revealed (Patrick Stewart's) increasing proficiency (averting thus: the usual disaster, etc.) Guess I have to find the title of that episode; One quote was "..in {some Place-name} ..When The Walls Fell." I thought entire performance was of a grade to produce permanent memory; 'twas emotionally satisfying quite beyond the mere logical, intellectual detail.
Post #414,982 by scoenye 10/30/16 10:47:07 AM 10/30/16 10:47:07 AM Reply	Shaka. Episode was "Darmok"
Post #414,999 by Ashton 10/30/16 11:38:02 PM 10/30/16 11:38:02 PM Reply	Yess.. Thanks; Darmok resonates. Curious if you recalled those two names, outright.. (My non-volatile RAM may be suffering some bit-rot ... or there's an undetected shorted Tantalum cap? somewhere.)
Post #415,046 by scoenye 11/2/16 7:46:38 AM 11/2/16 7:46:38 AM Reply	Courtesy BBC America They have NG, and now the original series, on an infinite loop. "Darmok" came up within the last couple of months.

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