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Post #406,321
by drook
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11/16/15 5:40:36 PM
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New My amateur analysis
Everything I've read about them is consistent with the psychology of LA gangs: protection, sense of belonging, sense of purpose, dehumanization of the "other", recruiting the young and unemployed, etc.

This isn't a perfect parallel, I'm sure. But it seems close enough that maybe we should be looking to what works in fighting gangs.
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Drew
Post #406,323
by Andrew Grygus
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11/16/15 5:58:42 PM
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New That is an opinion I've also stated on this site.
This whole radical Islam thing is more an overgrown street gang than a religion.

However you cut it, loyalty and submission to the authority of your leaders is the same in gangs and radical religion.
     Not a word here on Paris . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (40) - Nov. 16, 2015, 01:10:00 AM EST
         It's not the religion. - (static) - (31) - Nov. 16, 2015, 02:14:05 AM EST
             What religion has ever been anything but a political movement? -NT - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 16, 2015, 08:07:55 AM EST
             Oh no, it's not Islam, not at all! - (Andrew Grygus) - (29) - Nov. 16, 2015, 10:56:13 AM EST
                 kurds are not followers of islam? News to me -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 16, 2015, 11:26:38 AM EST
                     "Compared to the Unbeliever, the Kurd is a Muslim" - (Andrew Grygus) - Nov. 16, 2015, 11:52:00 AM EST
                 It may not be. - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 16, 2015, 11:26:53 AM EST
                 It's not religion. - (Another Scott) - (18) - Nov. 16, 2015, 04:30:46 PM EST
                     You guys are talking like Daesh . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (15) - Nov. 16, 2015, 04:57:36 PM EST
                         Daesh is in the news. - (Another Scott) - (14) - Nov. 16, 2015, 09:02:52 PM EST
                             That's whataboutery. - (pwhysall) - (13) - Nov. 17, 2015, 01:28:50 AM EST
                                 Good counterpoint. But... - (Another Scott) - (10) - Nov. 17, 2015, 07:57:56 AM EST
                                     It is about us . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Nov. 17, 2015, 11:55:46 AM EST
                                     EXACTLY - (pwhysall) - (1) - Nov. 17, 2015, 12:02:16 PM EST
                                         Re: EXACTLY - (Another Scott) - Nov. 17, 2015, 09:11:07 PM EST
                                     What are we going to do about it? - (pwhysall) - (2) - Nov. 17, 2015, 12:05:43 PM EST
                                         Kinda sorta like... - (Another Scott) - Nov. 17, 2015, 04:37:17 PM EST
                                         And, one very important point. - (Andrew Grygus) - Nov. 17, 2015, 05:14:53 PM EST
                                     The turks don't seem to agree with you - (crazy) - (1) - Nov. 17, 2015, 07:38:00 PM EST
                                         Too many football fans are jerks. Film at 11. -NT - (Another Scott) - Nov. 17, 2015, 07:51:27 PM EST
                                     Hey! I gave up the Battle Flag, they can give up Islam. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 18, 2015, 05:03:23 PM EST
                                     You think wrong. - (CRConrad) - June 13, 2017, 05:15:04 AM EDT
                                 whataboutery, so you believe the earth is only 6 thousand years old? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 17, 2015, 09:04:32 AM EST
                                     Eh? - (pwhysall) - Nov. 17, 2015, 12:03:27 PM EST
                     My amateur analysis - (drook) - (1) - Nov. 16, 2015, 05:40:36 PM EST
                         That is an opinion I've also stated on this site. - (Andrew Grygus) - Nov. 16, 2015, 05:58:42 PM EST
                 the meat of the matter - (rcareaga) - (1) - Nov. 17, 2015, 06:21:12 PM EST
                     Talk about a broad brush! - (Andrew Grygus) - Nov. 17, 2015, 08:52:45 PM EST
                 Yes and no. - (static) - (4) - Nov. 18, 2015, 05:20:47 AM EST
                     Excellent! Thanks very much for the pointer. -NT - (Another Scott) - Nov. 18, 2015, 08:13:55 AM EST
                     Very good! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 18, 2015, 12:17:37 PM EST
                     Gracias, Wade - (Ashton) - (1) - Nov. 22, 2015, 05:26:26 PM EST
                         Waleed Aly is a very smart guy. - (static) - Nov. 22, 2015, 08:48:11 PM EST
         Personally, ... - (Another Scott) - Nov. 16, 2015, 07:39:37 AM EST
         So, I suppose all those Muslims drowning in the Med trying to get to Europe... - (a6l6e6x) - (4) - Nov. 16, 2015, 07:52:37 AM EST
             There is actually a significant homegrown component - (scoenye) - (3) - Nov. 16, 2015, 08:02:49 AM EST
                 Yep, Europeans are clanish and integration of immigrants is a problem. - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Nov. 16, 2015, 09:17:25 AM EST
                     Problem is, discrimination is protected - (scoenye) - (1) - Nov. 16, 2015, 07:25:13 PM EST
                         :-( Thanks for the post. -NT - (Another Scott) - Nov. 16, 2015, 07:55:34 PM EST
         not really muslims have been bombing paris since 1956 and france used to run syria - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 16, 2015, 09:48:20 AM EST
             France and Islam and recent history - (rcareaga) - Nov. 17, 2015, 06:27:46 PM EST

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