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He should have made an announcement...even though the threats were non-specific. (Dem criticism)

He makes non-specific announcemets.

He only did it to scare people so they'd ignore other things.(your criticism)

So...

He doesn't make announcements...something happens...you tell him to make announcements...he does...now he shouldn't have because he only did it to scare people.

Don't you find that just a tad silly?
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

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New You continue to miss the point
The current regime has used warnings of terrorist threats to deflect criticism.

Address this point instead of your own (different) point. please.
Re-elect Gore in 2004
New To deflect >what< criticism?
The criticism that they DIDN'T ISSUE WARNINGS!

So they did. And now you're telling them that they used the warnings to deflect the criticism that they didn't issue warnings.

Aren't you finding this anywhere near as amusing as I am???

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New Don't play stupid
It's beneath you.

The point was, and remains, the current regime is using fear of terrorist attacks (the many and varied recent 'warnings') to deflect criticism.

Try again.
Re-elect Gore in 2004
New Bepatient...
this is annoying.

You're standing here (after I cited Senator Feinstein's article) and are telling us, with a straight face that the only thing Democrats have complained about was the lack of a warning. That there was no other thing that the President could've done?

Surely, if the only thing the President could do was issue warnings, then that's the ONLY thing he's done since 9/11, right?

New Look...its really simple.
And I don't find it terribly important...its the continuing MO.

One of the single largest points harped on by the Dems was that no warnings were issued in response to the non-specific threats contained in the Aug 6 briefing.

Noone is saying thats the only criticism...just one of the more pronounced ones.

So they issued warnings.

TO get this criticism.

I find that funny...ok? Very simple really.

Both R & D sides seem to agree that the Intel committees need to address the failings in the systems...and to a large part Ridge's office is responsible for these things...and has been working on these issues.


I happen to agree with Cheney in that the nature of the problem is way too sensitive to allow an independent panel in to make an inquiry. Independent panels can't keep secrets...and there are secrets here than need to be kept.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson

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New Dupe post. Ignore.
Re-elect Gore in 2004
Expand Edited by Silverlock May 29, 2002, 10:39:45 PM EDT
     White House: Terror warnings a tactic to fend off criticism - (Silverlock) - (98)
         Klansman gets life in prison for 1963 killings -?? -NT - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
             Huh? - (Silverlock) - (1)
                 I think I had junk in my proxy server... - (Simon_Jester)
             Ignore this dup-post - (Silverlock)
         But of course... - (bepatient) - (56)
             So why cut off the drone ops? - (Brandioch) - (55)
                 Cute use of selective memory. - (bepatient) - (54)
                     You're still trying for that strawman tangent, aren't you? - (Brandioch) - (43)
                         Why don't you... - (bepatient) - (42)
                             Why don't you buy a dictionary. - (Brandioch)
                             WHOA...wait a minute... - (Simon_Jester) - (40)
                                 They just spent the better part.... - (bepatient) - (39)
                                     I will even give you the chance to show it isn't straw. - (Brandioch) - (37)
                                         Nice wording - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                             And they mocked Clinton for that, didn't they? - (Brandioch)
                                         Tom Tomorrow: ____calls a spayed a spayed._________:-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton)
                                         So what about the drones? -NT - (bepatient) - (33)
                                             Uh..their pilots have been reassigned to KP. Co$t reduction? -NT - (Ashton)
                                             You don't have to grovel. - (Brandioch) - (29)
                                                 You don't have to get it... - (bepatient) - (28)
                                                     Company - (bepatient) - (27)
                                                         You REALLY need to learn how to read. - (Brandioch) - (26)
                                                             chuckle - (bepatient) - (25)
                                                                 Like I said, learn to read. - (Brandioch) - (24)
                                                                     Oh... - (bepatient) - (23)
                                                                         Bill "Strawman" Pathetic. - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                                                             Not my problem... - (bepatient)
                                                                         Umm...you mean, this quote? - (Simon_Jester) - (20)
                                                                             Nope...but that was a good try... - (bepatient) - (19)
                                                                                 So you mean this quote.... - (Simon_Jester) - (18)
                                                                                     Yep.. - (bepatient) - (17)
                                                                                         Excellent...so, what are you arguing again? - (Simon_Jester) - (16)
                                                                                             I wasn't arguing... - (bepatient) - (15)
                                                                                                 Nah Beep, no need to despise - (Ashton) - (3)
                                                                                                     Actually Ash... - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                                                         Damn, BeeP.. - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                                                             Oooh...my favorite! -NT - (bepatient)
                                                                                                 Grin -- I agree... - (Simon_Jester)
                                                                                                 What does that have to do with my original point? - (Silverlock) - (9)
                                                                                                     Everything - (bepatient) - (6)
                                                                                                         You continue to miss the point - (Silverlock) - (4)
                                                                                                             To deflect >what< criticism? - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                                                                                 Don't play stupid - (Silverlock)
                                                                                                                 Bepatient... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                                                                                                     Look...its really simple. - (bepatient)
                                                                                                         Dupe post. Ignore. -NT - (Silverlock)
                                                                                                     Absolutely nothing.... - (folkert) - (1)
                                                                                                         that was...um...unexpected.... - (bepatient)
                                             Stopped under Clinton Administration - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                 Just too cockamamie amateurish: Not to be true!____:( -NT - (Ashton)
                                     Actually I think it is politics as usual. - (Simon_Jester)
                     Re: Cute use of selective memory. - (Simon_Jester) - (9)
                         I know the thread. - (bepatient) - (4)
                             Ah...I see. thank you. -NT - (Simon_Jester)
                             Maybe it should be "Bill 'Strawman' Pathetic"? - (Brandioch) - (2)
                                 However, Brandioch... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                     Yup. - (Brandioch)
                         Okay, Simon, Here's MY problem. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                             Fair enough... - (Simon_Jester) - (2)
                                 Slightly less fair...... - (Brandioch)
                                 Admitted Bias. - (mmoffitt)
         Back to the point - (Silverlock) - (36)
             Because: we have to somehow weather this group - til 1/05 - (Ashton) - (2)
                 Nothing else. - (Brandioch) - (1)
                     I think I got a new sig! - (jb4)
             Are you certain... - (bepatient) - (32)
                 Pardon me, but BULLSHIT! - (Silverlock) - (20)
                     Are you being dense on purpose? - (bepatient) - (19)
                         Wow... Beep Stooping.... -NT - (folkert) - (1)
                             True...not necessary...apologies -NT - (bepatient)
                         To spell it out... - (Simon_Jester) - (7)
                             I'm not mmissing that point. - (bepatient) - (6)
                                 But I am apparently stuttering ;-) -NT - (bepatient)
                                 Well, I'm glad you're not missing that point... - (Simon_Jester) - (4)
                                     Not around here. - (bepatient) - (3)
                                         Well...there is a lot of humor to go around. - (Simon_Jester) - (2)
                                             I suppose - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                 Exactly.. - (Simon_Jester)
                         I am trying not to insult - (Silverlock) - (8)
                             My point was simple... - (bepatient) - (7)
                                 Umm... fine... - (Silverlock) - (6)
                                     Yep - (bepatient) - (3)
                                         "missing the point"? - (Silverlock) - (2)
                                             Come on .... - (folkert)
                                             Bog - (bepatient)
                                     Well... - (folkert) - (1)
                                         No need really. - (bepatient)
                 And what might that be? - (jb4) - (10)
                     Wow.... - (bepatient) - (9)
                         Oh come on now.... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                             Amazingly enough... - (bepatient)
                         C'mon Bill..stop shoveling straw - (jb4) - (6)
                             The latest incarnation... - (bepatient) - (5)
                                 Yeah, except for one thing: - (jb4) - (4)
                                     I read them. - (bepatient) - (3)
                                         Re: I read them. - (Spammer 1029) - (1)
                                             SPAM much? -NT - (bepatient)
                                         Re: I read them. - (Spammer 1029)

Prolly need to go back for "reeducation"...
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