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New Depends a lot on whether Fla's social services
are as fucked as their election ones.

I have some experience with "Huckleberry House" in SF, some years back. Do a Google on just that. It might be illuminating; at least give you some basis for evaluating whatever is available to you. Since I knew one of their counselors, I got a mini-education on the Way things Worked, where intelligence fit in, discretion etc. All in all - they produced good results. I once gave 'shelter' briefly to an in-betweener: by then parentless. While she wasn't a klepto - let's just say that she had other 'issues'. I learned that I din't know shit about the psych. of many of these kids -- but that: Some Did know a lot.

All of which doesn't help you much - except for me to say that (IMhO) - Yes, Virginia there *Are* Santa Clauses, people whose motivation is not $$, whose plans, methods are not airy-fairy -- and who know more than me & thee about (often enough) getting the Attention of kids who are the - yes Victims as well as whatever Else - of the generally inane and chaotic culture we have unleashed upon the cheeldrun, after doing it to ourselves. Hell, they could even work with some ones who were budding miniature Billys and Ballys, it seemed.

(No reflection upon you & yours either: as all know -- it's Peer pressure which Rulez.) Just listen to the -bitch- lyrics and notice the 13 yo 'simulated-sex' dance ref'd in a post here recently. You know all this stuff..

My suggestion is, that you try to rummage among your local acquaintances for someone personally familiar with whatever are the possibilities across agencies -- before 'formally' just using the yellow pages for an entree. You may find something as advanced as Huckleberry -- if you're bloody fortunate. But you'd need some informed inside opinion to learn how to work Your system, get past certain BS filters that are always frustrating. ie set radar to find Intelligence. It would be a mistake to suppose that everyone doing this kind of work is doing so because - they can't learn C or how to sell fodder to sheep.

Good Luck,


Ashton
New I have met some decent folks years ago
used to do cult deprogramming at one time. Get the protein intake up, sober them up and jolt the thought processes. People in the mental health field are there for many reasons and there are a few who have a dedicated clue. I will try this huckleberry house google.
thanx,
bill
TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
New With that experience -
You're ahead - not a lot of difference among drug- religion- peer- brainwashing. Habit handles the ongoing behaviour, once the er engrams get the old neurons lined-up in lock-step.

(Your experience may be recyclable BTW, even more valuable in Your Own Field: creating a 12-step for those wearing Suits and now terminally addicted to Bestial-upgrading: as a malevolent money sump - which results in treating employees as commodities.) This may be a more insidious addiction than any of the above ;-)

Hey..! I could contribute to the slogans for your new vocation (?) (though these won't help the 17 yo so much as a clue-by-4 administered to the pineal gland.)

Don't let SAP sap your brains...

You wouldn't eat sh*t preloaded on your plate - why eat Win MErde?

(Even) DOS programs still work today; how come ya need new Windoze about every other year?

It's 11 pm. Where is Your Data being held hostage tonight?

Windoze? .nyet! Learn it. Follow it. Declare independence.

Ever heard of a computer not being rebooted for 5 years? We've got it!
You can get it.

That place.. "Where you wanted to go today" - did you ever get there?


Etc. (one has to start with simple jingles when facing institutionalized dumbth, y'know)



Luck with the tyke (just an older tyke),

Ashton
New All your data all the time is my slogan
TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
     need suggestons for a problematic 17yo - (boxley) - (29)
         First, change all your locks. - (Silverlock) - (10)
             Florida law gets in the way - (boxley) - (9)
                 Can you disown her? -NT - (Silverlock) - (8)
                     gonna find out if we can divorce her -NT - (boxley) - (7)
                         looks like the only statute is - (boxley) - (6)
                             Get a safe. - (Silverlock) - (5)
                                 Which boyfriend? - (boxley) - (4)
                                     Are any of them over 18? - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                         A 17yo is fair game except if a person over 18 - (boxley) - (2)
                                             Not so sure. Depends on the age gap. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                 Nope her crew is 16-21 -NT - (boxley)
         Sorry to hear that. - (mmoffitt)
         Ouch! - (jbrabeck)
         Depends a lot on whether Fla's social services - (Ashton) - (3)
             I have met some decent folks years ago - (boxley) - (2)
                 With that experience - - (Ashton) - (1)
                     All your data all the time is my slogan -NT - (boxley)
         Yeeouch! - (orion)
         Re: suggestons for a problematic 17yo - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
             Well all of the things mentioned have been tried - (boxley)
         Just 6 months left? - (ben_tilly) - (3)
             I want to do that - (boxley) - (2)
                 Amsterdam, then. - (Ashton) - (1)
                     trouble with amsterdam - (boxley)
         Unfortunately, the truism remains - (wharris2)
         resolution - (boxley) - (3)
             Good luck -NT - (wharris2)
             Let's hope that will help! - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                 Different department - (boxley)

Yeah, baby!
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