Florida law gets in the way

Post #39,521 by boxley 5/22/02 12:42:30 PM Reply	Florida law gets in the way She doesnt have a key, I cannot have her arrested for tresspass as she is a minor and her mother lives there. She is currently facing the following charges possession of narcotics and paraphanalia felony battery on a police officer credit card theft theft by deception (hot checks) theft (her mothers money and at least 2 other people) B&E neighbors garage and stole a new bike this will result in the judge putting her on probation and sending her back to live with us. I dont have a choice. nder Florida law if she goes to Jail I get to pay $20 to $60 dollars a day until she is 18 for every day in jail, thanx, Bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #39,522 by Silverlock 5/22/02 12:44:04 PM Reply	Can you disown her? "Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does NOT mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country." ~ Theodore Roosevelt
Post #39,524 by boxley 5/22/02 12:52:01 PM Reply	gonna find out if we can divorce her TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #39,528 by boxley 5/22/02 1:40:11 PM Reply	looks like the only statute is [link\|http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0743/SEC015.HTM&Title=->2001->Ch0743->Section%20015\|link] but the paragraph marked 6 is the showstopper. It must be in the childs best interest not the victims. Maybe try it anyway, Thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #39,563 by Silverlock 5/22/02 10:10:07 PM Reply	Get a safe. Keep your valuables in it at all times. Put a lock on the fridge. Put locks on all the closets. You know the drill, consider yourself living in enemy territory and take all the safeguards that it implies. From your description, the girl is out of control. There is nothing you can do in the short term to affect that. Unless you are willing to declare her mentally incompetent. That is a hell of a big step. If you want to go that far, get a lawywer first. It'll cost a bit, but how much would/could you lose due to her? I am, of course, assuming you have tried talking to her and her mother has tried the same. I know full well how little influence a parent can have on a 'wildchild' adolescent(so-called adult). One thing to try is to go to her school and see if she has any teachers she respects. If so, recruit them! You may have some luck in talking to her friends also, this is a small chance, but worth exploring, Try laying it out on the table. "You are a _______ (whatever seems effective) and we can't live with that anymore. You are not allowed in this house, you are not allowed to phone this house, you are not allowed to speak to any of us. Go away." (And then take a very trusting move and turn your back on her). You could also, of course, beat the holy living hell out of the current boyfriend (I assume there is a slimebag boyfriend involved somwwhere). Satisfying as this may be, I advise against it. "Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does NOT mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country." ~ Theodore Roosevelt
Post #39,589 by boxley 5/23/02 7:29:14 AM Reply	Which boyfriend? She is sleeping with 6 that I know of as well as 2 girls, she has only been here for 2 months, she stayed with us last year with fewer problems but the guy she was with before cant stand her now. I would declare her mentally incompetent but the "system" here would simply go "OK she's incompetent so take care of her" The table was layed, she didnt appreciate being called a skank in front of everybody so had to explain real slow that a skank is a thieving ho that only thinks about her own gratification. By admision and evidence, she acts like a ho and she is a thief so the name sticks. Then told her that she needs to forget where we live and I would prefer if she disappeared and stayed that way as she has burned the last bridge to any family members of hers. She hasnt been back still stealing my wifes wallet so am hoping it stays that way. My wife is hurting over this but is toughing it out. Putting the house up for sale this weekend, hope it sells fast so I can move before the courts and the kid find out where Im going. thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #39,805 by Another Scott 5/24/02 10:47:46 AM Reply	Are any of them over 18? Since she's a minor and they're helping corrupt her, perhaps they could be pressured into cutting off contact with her or face charges. She's not doing this all on her own. There must be someone in her cadre that's over 18 that could be pressured. It's a very bad situation for you, and I feel for you and your family. But realistically, unless you can find FL law that clarifies things better, I think Don's suggestion of locking up everything you can is probably the best you can do until she's 18. :-( Best of luck. Cheers, Scott.
Post #39,954 by boxley 5/26/02 9:46:09 AM Reply	A 17yo is fair game except if a person over 18 is in a position of authority, guardian, teacher etc. thanx, bill TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS
Post #39,966 by Another Scott 5/26/02 10:46:19 AM Reply	Not so sure. Depends on the age gap. If she's messing around with someone 24+ then the older person is breaking Florida law: [link\|http://www.vaw.umn.edu/FinalDocuments/stateleg.asp\|Here]: The survey findings included the following amendments to existing statutory rape laws. The States enacted these amendments between January 1995 and January 1997: [...] * Targeting much older defendants. Two States increased the possible sentence when the defendant is significantly older than the minor. Delaware increased the possible sentence when the defendant is 10 or more years older than a minor under 16, and Georgia increased the sentence to a mandatory 10 years when the defendant is 21 years old or older. Florida rewrote one of its laws so that persons 24 or older are prohibited from having sex with 16- and 17-year-olds. [...] Emphasis added. I know it's grasping at straws. :-( Best of luck! Cheers, Scott.
Post #40,158 by boxley 5/28/02 9:45:18 AM Reply	Nope her crew is 16-21 TAM ARIS QUAM ARMIPOTENS

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