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New so getting comfy on the bottom of the income scale are we?
For some people, the availability of exchange subsidies under the ACA will reduce incentives to work both through a substitution effect and through an income effect. The former arises because subsidies decline with rising income (and increase as income falls), thus making work less attractive
having to pay full cost for healthcare makes welfare attractive. Nice.
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New Means testing always has that effect on the poor.
http://www.motherjon...oyment-among-poor

If, for example, earning $100 in additional income means a $25 reduction in Obamacare subsidies, you're only getting $75 for your extra work. At the margins, some people will decide that's not worth it, so they'll forego working extra hours. That's the substitution effect. In addition, low-income workers covered by Obamacare will have lower medical bills. This makes them less desperate for additional money, and might also cause them to forego working extra hours. That's the income effect.

This is not something specific to Obamacare. It's a shortcoming in all means-tested welfare programs. It's basically Welfare 101, and in over half a century, no one has really figured out how to get around it. It's something you just have to accept if you support safety net programs for the poor.

It's worth noting, however, that health care is an exception to this rule. It doesn't have to be means tested. If we simply had a rational national health care system, available to everyone regardless of income, then none of this would be an issue. There might still be a small income effect, but it would probably be barely noticeable. Since everyone would be fully covered no matter what, there would no high effective marginal tax rate on the poor and no reason not to work more hours. Someday we'll get there.


The subsidies need to be more generous to people above the poverty line, not less.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Re: more generous to people above the poverty line, not less
AKA "Single Payer" perhaps?
New Sure, but we don't have to cut the cord for it to be better.
New lolz
Come on America, get yourselves some universal healthcare.

It won't turn you all into godless commies, I promise.
New No way.
Private health insurance companies are owned mostly by Wall Street Banks.
Our government is owned by Wall Street Banks.

“We are raising our 2013 membership and earnings per share guidance, reflecting our strong year-to-date performance and our continued expectation for higher investment spending in the fourth quarter as we begin our implementation of the Affordable Care Act,” Wellpoint chief executive officer Joseph Swedish told Wall Street analysts and investors earlier this week on the company’s third-quarter earnings call.


http://www.forbes.co...rs-well-underway/

Here's just ONE of our vaunted private insurer's third quarter profit statement.
Operating Cash Flow: Operating cash flow totaled approximately $1.4 billion, or 2.1 times net income in the third quarter of 2013, and approximately $2.8 billion, or 1.2 times net income, for the first nine months of 2013.


http://ir.wellpoint....867098&highlight=

Everything here is working just as it should in a real capitalist system. That was the whole point of the ACA: further enrich Obama's owners Wall Street constituency.
     CBO: Obamacare means people can actually retire. - (Another Scott) - (14)
         so getting comfy on the bottom of the income scale are we? - (boxley) - (5)
             Means testing always has that effect on the poor. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                 Re: more generous to people above the poverty line, not less - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                     Sure, but we don't have to cut the cord for it to be better. -NT - (Another Scott)
             lolz - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 No way. - (mmoffitt)
         Oh, wages will go up too. - (Another Scott) - (7)
             so america loses 2.5 million jobs but - (boxley) - (6)
                 Ya gotta read the report more carefully. - (Another Scott) - (5)
                     ya mean parse it in a pollyanna manner? - (boxley) - (2)
                         They're estimates at this point. Time will tell. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                             know they are estimates in 2010 the estimate was MUCH lower -NT - (boxley)
                     Tell that to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                         Yes, is; worse: ..he has soo much despicable company. -NT - (Ashton)

I swear it’s their damn business model.
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