No rabble rousing at either speech that I saw

Post #299,014 by mhuber 11/5/08 11:24:12 AM Reply	No rabble rousing at either speech that I saw All the rabble rousing was done before the victory or defeat. The Obama crowds were more gracious. And while it is easier for an individual to be gracious in victory than in defeat, victorious crowds in general are no more generous to their opponents than defeated crowds. The Obama crowd did not turn gracious because they won, and the McCain crowd did not turn ugly because it lost. They were that way because of the way the campaigns were run. I give McCain some points for a fine and gracious concession speech. But then I remember all the ominous music and scary graphics that ended with that uber-creepy "...and I approve this message" coming from the 3/4 from below view of the Fearless Leader face, and the dissonance is not in accord with any kind of personal integrity, particularly from one who brags about Straight Talk. --------------- John McCain's face, when seen from a normal angle under normal light, is not a Fearless Leader face. The graphics people did some fine work there, and if I were making a splatter version of 1984 I'd look them up.
Post #299,018 by folkert 11/5/08 12:13:44 PM Reply	This is the point I was trying to get across Not that I wanted to make trouble. But the Obama/Biden crowd has always been more gracious and upbeat. Where as McCain/Palin has been about rousting up the crowd to a feverish pitch, which leads to "Kill him" comments from the crowd that were not quelled at all (in previous rallies)... Individuals are smart and uncanny creatures able to think smartly. Crowds are dumb reactive and very dangerous. Crowds are very easily lead or pushed to do things individuals wouldn't.
Post #299,031 by Ashton 11/5/08 4:19:40 PM Reply	Exactly so, that last. And anyone running for public office who does not GROK TO FULLNESS that vital POINT -- has already proven unfit to 'lead' anything larger than a Chihuahua on a leash. The Mob burned the Library at Alexandria after flaying-alive Hypatia; that was no myth - that happened. '08 mobs have techno-assist + not a single extra neurons/unit than that earlier mob. Why is it that so much of this class of behavior has now, for all good recent historical examples -- become inextricably associated with ANY Repo 'campaign'? (Rove, as McCarthy and Father Coughlan before.. merely reached into their gelatinous mass and found the most concise form of expression of the core-putrescence seen - and patented it.) Göbbels did that-all with more polish, but with the same misanthropic viciousness. Rove is too vain to acknowledge his mentor. But we can. May he and Cheney Know Shame, for the First Time ... before they expire. (Rush has Seen his disease - why else the constant need for numbing drugs?)
Post #299,081 by drook 11/6/08 10:32:02 AM Reply	Exactly how I saw it "And while it is easier for an individual to be gracious in victory than in defeat, victorious crowds in general are no more generous to their opponents than defeated crowds. The Obama crowd did not turn gracious because they won, and the McCain crowd did not turn ugly because it lost. They were that way because of the way the campaigns were run." That's the key thing. It shows the kind of support they cultivated.

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