modern christmas according to syrian TV

Post #275,304 by boxley 12/9/06 6:51:27 PM Reply	modern christmas according to syrian TV [link\|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4x-gwBwGjQ&mode=related&search=\|http://www.youtube.c...e=related&search=] thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #275,306 by Another Scott 12/9/06 7:06:21 PM Reply	That's ... really bad. I can't find the words... :-(
Post #275,326 by CRConrad 12/10/06 2:57:32 AM Reply	What's so particularly bad about it?
Post #275,327 by pwhysall 12/10/06 3:50:39 AM Reply	Can't say I'm particularly bothered, either Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [link\|http://darwinia.co.uk/\|[image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]]
Post #275,329 by ubernostrum 12/10/06 5:37:13 AM Reply	Of course not. In your country Santa never would have gotten that far; the street-corner surveillance cameras would have picked him up on the edge of town, and he'd have been picked up long before he got to that Army roadblock. If anything, this just shows the lax state of security in Israel. \r\n\r\n ;) --\r\nYou cooin' with my bird?
Post #275,330 by Meerkat 12/10/06 6:30:16 AM Reply	Well hey, Santa's been used to sell everything else... Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
Post #275,345 by Another Scott 12/10/06 10:40:01 AM Reply	I watched it without sound. I don't feel like watching it again. Perhaps it wasn't the Santa itself, it was more the way it was chopped together (scene shot being at the front of Santa and a group of protesters, followed by a scene shot being right next to an Israeli soldier) and the way Santa looked (to me) to be added to other scenes later. It was a blatant propaganda piece, one that's designed to inflame passions. Nothing good can come from it. Yes, such propaganda is nothing new. Yes, Israeli soldiers have killed protesters who were no threat to them, and have killed innocent bystanders. And have killed others with little or no cause. That's not news either. I just found this piece of propaganda disturbing. If it's really been shown on Syrian TV, then it illustrates how big the divide is between their position and mine (which I think is fairly moderate). FWIW. Cheers, Scott.
Post #275,361 by CRConrad 12/10/06 4:34:12 PM Reply	Doesn't matter, the sound was really bad. I mean, it was fricking lousy! Kind of a droning Arabic version of Jingle Bells, as far as I could make out over the white noise... Could just as well not have been there at all, IMnshO. Not that I can see how that would make the film as a whole any worse than exactly what it is: As you so correctly point out, a piece of cheap propaganda with "Santa" half-amateurishly tricked into archival Intifada footage. Your previous post still doesn't explain what exactly is so bad about that. Don't worry; you don't have to try again. :-) Let's just leave it as one of those things I don't get.() What's so weird about how disturbed you are by this is... How to put this? Let's try this way: If that had been a fake "Baby Jesus" they'd shown being massacred by the IDF, then I could understand a Christian(+) being upset. But, in order for this "Santa" piece to bother one so, one would have to put Santa up on a level pretty much along with where a Christian puts Jesus, AFAICS. Has "Christmas" really been that* much perverted, over there? (): As I used to try to point out to my Dad in our discussions of politics when I was a teenager, his "I don't understand that!" was not necessarily a devastating retort on his part, demonstrating the complete incomprehensibility of my arguments -- it could just as well have been an admission of his limited gifts of comprehension. :-) (+): Other than myself, that is. [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad]* (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Ah, the Germans: Masters of Convoluted Simplification. — [link\|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1603\|Jehovah]
Post #275,363 by Another Scott 12/10/06 5:09:47 PM Reply	It wasn't the Santa aspect that got me. At least not so much. It could have been Gumby or Godot - it still would have been disturbing to me. Perhaps I've led too sheltered an existence. :-) Thanks. Cheers, Scott.
Post #275,367 by CRConrad 12/10/06 6:14:44 PM Reply	Yeah, seems so. You lack that certain refined Euro-cynicism. ;-)
Post #275,349 by boxley 12/10/06 11:08:43 AM Reply	lousy scripting, editing etc. I could do a better job santa and sleigh lands in front of soldiers. Soldiers kill rudolph, rough up santa and laugh as they kick him back over the line. Santa in a suicide belt riding a sleighbomb lands next to a bunch of hassids at the wailing wall. Much better script. thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 51 years. meep reach me at [link\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net\|mailto:bill.oxley@cox.net]
Post #277,231 by Arkadiy 1/2/07 9:50:23 PM Reply	I'll take the commercials, thank you very much. ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.]

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